Any other B-25B models flying??

Hal B · **Posted:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:36 pm

262crew wrote:

I don't think Grumpy is here yet? I work at the north end of the run way (Paine field) and live at the north east end about 2 miles away, and you can bet anytime a round sound comes in or out I run outside to see what it is! I could have missed it?

Been there since Nov. 1... :shock:

You must be slipping! :wink:

Don't feel bad, I didn't know it was here at KBLI until Steve Crewdog sent me a phone pic, and by then it was too late to get to the airport before it headed south

gary1954 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:56 pm

You think yer late :shock:

, I read it in I believe Fly Pasted. :shock:

...Now, does anybody got a post flight photo we can share :roll:

, and can I obtain a HR copy for my files please

.

Garth · **Posted:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:14 pm

ww2John wrote:

My Question - Was Miss Hap initially in a bomber configuration or was it built in the fast transport configuration for General Arnold?

Thanks for any specific, documented replies.

John

Aerotrader has her as "Ship #4": http://www.aerotrader.net/prj.html

Warbird Registry has her delivered in early 1941 and delivered to 17th Bomb Group, then going to General Arnold as his personal transport in 1943: http://www.warbirdregistry.org/b25regis ... 02168.html

rwdfresno · **Posted:** Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:35 am

Garth wrote:

I've also thought that Miss Hap would be nice if restored (ala Ol'927) as a B-25 or as an RB-25. Much in the same way that Swoose is being restored to her pre-VIP transport days.

Personally I think B-25 40-2168 has significant historical value being Hap Arnold's personal transport and I'm not sure why anyone would want to destroy that historical value to insert a bomb bay. I get a little tired of the idea that if it doesn't have guns or bomb-bay it is "interesting" enough to be historical.

Ryan

gary1954 · **Posted:** Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:28 am

rwdfresno wrote:

Garth wrote:

I've also thought that Miss Hap would be nice if restored (ala Ol'927) as a B-25 or as an RB-25. Much in the same way that Swoose is being restored to her pre-VIP transport days.

Personally I think B-25 40-2168 has significant historical value being Hap Arnold's personal transport and I'm not sure why anyone would want to destroy that historical value to insert a bomb bay. I get a little tired of the idea that if it doesn't have guns or bomb-bay it is "interesting" enough to be historical.

Ryan

Concur. Personally, I would have left the bomber in the VIP configuration had she been mine, based on her documented history as a VIP Transport for General Arnold, followed by the acqusition of Hughes. I have not found anything to "verify" that the Mitchell was operated with Hughes at the controls of N2825B. I was able to learn that Noah Dietrich (February 28, 1889 - February 15, 1982) Chief Executive Officer of the Hughes empire (1925-57) did cruise around in a B-25, which may have been this one however.
Then Dietrich acquired a B-25C-1 Serial 41-13251 c/n 82-5886 as N3968C formerly as ex-Dominican Air Force FAD 2502.
At that time, no one could do anything with or to a Hughes owned airplane unless he had absolute control over the modifications.
Hughes didn't know that Dietrich bought the plane, didn't know that 68C was being configured as a VIP transport, and when he found out, went absolutely Ba-Listic.
He grounded the plane and subsequently terminated Dietrich (for other reasons) and the B-25C sat on flat tires until after the liquidation of the Hughes estate.

262crew · **Joined:** Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:24 pm **Posts:** 877

Hal B wrote:

262crew wrote:

I don't think Grumpy is here yet? I work at the north end of the run way (Paine field) and live at the north east end about 2 miles away, and you can bet anytime a round sound comes in or out I run outside to see what it is! I could have missed it?

Been there since Nov. 1... :shock:

You must be slipping! :wink:

Don't feel bad, I didn't know it was here at KBLI until Steve Crewdog sent me a phone pic, and by then it was too late to get to the airport before it headed south

DOH! I must be slipping!? Oooooooooopps!

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