mystery FW-190 ?

Ethan · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:28 pm

I went to visit a friend at a paint shop down in Ontario CA today and he told me to look in a building around the corner,and i found this Focke-wulf Fw-190,everyone was out to lunch so i snapped a quick picture. Anyone know anything about it,whose it is? or where it came from?
It looked like it was pretty close to being airworthy

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

Good question! For about the last year or so, I've heard rumors of a "secret" 190 at Chino that no one knows about and hasn't been made public. Is this the same aircraft?

Calling BDK..........

Ethan · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:35 pm

i dont know. but it wasnt at chino.

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

Could this possibly be Paul Allen's? Anybody know if that aircraft is still in England or not? It should be close to flying by now.

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

Ethan wrote:

i dont know. but it wasnt at chino.

That doesn't mean it couldn't have been flown or trucked to Ontario, does it?

Ethan · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:47 pm

warbird1 wrote:

Ethan wrote:

i dont know. but it wasnt at chino.

That doesn't mean it couldn't have been flown or trucked to Ontario, does it?

you got me, i just took the picture

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

Yes, it is the secret Chino FW-190 which was never in Chino, and no it does not belong to Paul Allen. I bet if you searched the WIX archive hard enough you could figure it out.

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

bdk wrote:

Yes, it is the secret Chino FW-190 which was never in Chino, and no it does not belong to Paul Allen. I bet if you searched the WIX archive hard enough you could figure it out.

So you know, but you're not going to tell us who's it is? That's not very nice!

Is it a Flug Werk?

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

I've been sworn to secrecy, but the truth is out there...

I'm not trying to be mean, it's just that I am occasionally allowed access to things under the proviso that I don't blab. Don't blame me, blame the owners who want to protect their privacy on these matters for whatever reasons. It's their money that allows us to live vicariously through them and lets us see their toys. Give them some space and maybe they won't be reluctant to show them off when they are finished.

Yes, it is a Flugwerk example and when it taxis down the ramp at Chino it's open season for photos.

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

bdk wrote:

I've been sworn to secrecy, but the truth is out there...

I'm not trying to be mean, it's just that I am occasionally allowed access to things under the proviso that I don't blab. Don't blame me, blame the owners who want to protect their privacy on these matters for whatever reasons. It's their money that allows us to live vicariously through them and lets us see their toys. Give them some space and maybe they won't be reluctant to show them off when they are finished.

Yes, it is a Flugwerk example and when it taxis down the ramp at Chino it's open season for photos.

No problem, bdk, I was just giving you a hard time! I understand completely!

A few questions:

1) Has it flown yet?

2) Will it be based at Chino?

3) Will it be present for the POF 2010 airshow?

Thanks for the info!

mlenoch · **Posted:** Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:27 am

Is that at Nightengale's (sp) shop for a Midwest owner?
VL

JägerMarty · **Posted:** Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:11 am

bdk wrote:

I've been sworn to secrecy, but the truth is out there...

Yes, it is a Flugwerk example and when it taxis down the ramp at Chino it's open season for photos.

Fair play to them, how far away is Chino?
look fwd to more pics the scheme

Michel Lemieux · **Posted:** Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:30 am

Could be either
My guess is on no1. From Mikael great ressource site: http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/

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Fw 190A-8 173056 USA CR N91169
I/JG11
White 14 Project for airworthiness owned by Don Hansen, previously with Malcolm Laing. Built in 1944 at Marienburg. It is painted as the aircraft flown by Oberstleutnant Hans Dortenman. Might be completed during 2003. Incorporates many parts made by Flug Werk.

There is also this puppy....

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Fw 190A-6 550470 USA CR White 7
I./JG26 N126JG Privately owned, South Florida, FL. Previously with Malcolm Laing, Texas. Restoration to fly with probably a ASh-82 engine. fuselage almost complete. He uses two wrecks (W.Nr. 0140668) from France for spare parts.

Question.......I was not aware that the Mr Yagen aquired all the TX Aviation Museum FW-190 airframes...total of 3. Any news or updates on how many will be assembled out of the 3 airframes ?

Quote:

Fw 190A-3 5467 USA CR N6152P
Yellow 9 3./JG5 Fighter Factory, VI previously with Texas Air Museum, Texas, under restoration to fly.

Quote:

Fw 190A-8 350177 USA CR N4247L
Blue 1
12./JG5 Fighter Factory, VI, Texas Air Museum, Texas.

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Fw 190A-8 732183 USA CR N90FW
Blue 4 12./JG5 Fighter Factory VI, previously with Texas Air Museum, Texas . This aircraft is internally incomplete

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

warbird1 wrote:

1) Has it flown yet?
2) Will it be based at Chino?
3) Will it be present for the POF 2010 airshow?

1) No.
2) Doubt it.
3) Dunno.

JägerMarty wrote:

Fair play to them, how far away is Chino?

8 miles maybe?

Brett · **Posted:** Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:53 am

I haven't seen a FW190 in formation with a B-17, but at Oldtimer Hahnweide in September they had Christophe Jacquard's FW190 plus a Messerchmitt Bf109 (Red 7) attacking a B-17 (Pink Lady).

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