Curious about engine torque -
Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:38 am
The Fifi thread got me wondering about engine torque for the large piston engines; we all know the hp the various engines are rated at, but what are the <general> torque ratings for engines like a -2800,-3350, -4360, Merlin, Allison, etc...
John the Nerd....
John the Nerd....
Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:25 pm
The KC-97 with R-4360-59B was limited to 247 torque psi (3,500 hp).
The C-130 with a T-56-15 was limited to 19,600 inch pounds
The P-3 with a T-56-? was measured in horse power
FiFi with R-3350-B29 will be limited to 129 torque psi (2,200 hp.) We will need to build some charts with various power settings to use in flight.
On a cold day you can easily exceed these limits.
The C-130 with a T-56-15 was limited to 19,600 inch pounds
The P-3 with a T-56-? was measured in horse power
FiFi with R-3350-B29 will be limited to 129 torque psi (2,200 hp.) We will need to build some charts with various power settings to use in flight.
On a cold day you can easily exceed these limits.
Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:34 pm
And it depends on where the readings are taken. Meaning is it direct from the crankshaft or through a gear set like the reduction gear unit.
Engine HP is derived from the torque, as determined by a dynamometer.
If it is a R-4360 and the given HP is 3250 at 2700 rpm's the torque is
6321 lb ft.
Engine HP is derived from the torque, as determined by a dynamometer.
If it is a R-4360 and the given HP is 3250 at 2700 rpm's the torque is
6321 lb ft.
Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:23 pm
A way to figure out BMEP is shown on this site:
http://www.tsrsoftware.com/bmep.htm
-Chaz
http://www.tsrsoftware.com/bmep.htm
-Chaz
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Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:33 pm
http://www.epi-eng.com/piston_engine_te ... dstick.htm
These people seem to have lot's on this subject as well.
b29flteng, you are going to run FiFi L.O.P. I assume?
-Chaz
These people seem to have lot's on this subject as well.
b29flteng, you are going to run FiFi L.O.P. I assume?
-Chaz
Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:56 pm
Simple formula is:
HP = (Torque x RPM)/5252
or to use Engguy's example, 3250 = (6321 x 2700)/ 5252. Have any two and you can get the third.
HP = (Torque x RPM)/5252
or to use Engguy's example, 3250 = (6321 x 2700)/ 5252. Have any two and you can get the third.
Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:48 am
[quote=b29flteng, you are going to run FiFi L.O.P. I assume?
-Chaz[/quote]
I'm not sure about running LOP yet, we may just run it in Auto Lean.
I talked to a P-3 engineer and the max Hp on a T-56-14 engine used in a P-3 is 4,600 hp (indicated).
-Chaz[/quote]
I'm not sure about running LOP yet, we may just run it in Auto Lean.
I talked to a P-3 engineer and the max Hp on a T-56-14 engine used in a P-3 is 4,600 hp (indicated).
Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:33 pm
Don't forget that engine torque at the crankshaft is much lower than the actual torque on the airframe from the prop due to the gear reduction in the engine nosecase. None of these large piston engines are direct drive (except P-39/P-63 with remote mounted nosecases).
Re: Curious about engine torque -
Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:25 am
hahnej wrote:The Fifi thread got me wondering about engine torque for the large piston engines....
Well...ahh, I'll leave this one alone...
