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Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:02 pm

Boeing F8B would be nice.
Norm

Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:25 pm

...three pages and no Airacuda or Maxim Gorky? :rolleyes:

Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:15 pm

I'll see your Maxim Gorky (ANT-20... but not the -20bis, too easy!) and raise you a Kalinin K-7!!!!

How about an authentic replica of the golden-age dirigibles? Los Angeles, Graf Zeppelin, Hindenburg, etc... OF COURSE with a squadron of replica biplanes to launch from underneath!

Come to think of it... can you imagine building an XF-88 Goblin parasite fighter? The FAA might ground you for starting that one, on mental illness grounds!

Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:56 am

Pretty good guess that there will be no more Stratalinas!


There is something to be said about unique "airworthy ?" survivors.

The XB-70 is still around.....so it only would be resto...right :roll: :wink:

I'd go with the YB-49 also......just for sheer complexity.

BTY...love the bumps of the past few dazed

Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:41 am

Michel - you get the Valkriye and I'll be the first in line to volunteer! that would be one incredible fly-by at an air show eh?

Tom P.

Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:05 am

wendovertom wrote:Michel - you get the Valkriye and I'll be the first in line to volunteer! that would be one incredible fly-by at an air show eh?

Tom P.


Wow, that would be a sight to see. Who would chip in for the fuel though!!! :shock:

Re: Vickers Wellington

Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:17 am

AndyG wrote:I'd imagine that scratchbuilding a Wellington Scott, with its geodetic construction would be quite a challenge at any price. They reproduced a lot of fuselage on the Brooklands 'Loch Ness' one, though that was only a static.

FYI: For those who collect the metal Corgi Aviation Archive in 1:72 scale, they have just released a Wellington. Very nice too. The Liberator is fine and dandy too.

Antone else like to confess to a Corgi habit? ;-)


i agree, the wimpy wellington

Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:03 pm

wendovertom wrote:Resurrecting this thread -

XB-70
XF-85 goblin
YB-49 (Jack was right!)

Tom P.


If talking semi Modern birds (semi like the B-70) where you have to start from scratch - (tooling, materials, fab processes, analytical design teams, etc) the B-70 and the SR 71 and X-15 do come to mind... honeycomb, titanium forgings, etc, etc.



WWII - I can't imagine anything any more complicated to build from scratch than the B-29, although there have been several 'equals' mentioned

Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:04 pm

wendovertom wrote:Resurrecting this thread -

XB-70
XF-85 goblin
YB-49 (Jack was right!)

Tom P.


If talking semi Modern birds (semi like the B-70) where you have to start from scratch - (tooling, materials, fab processes, analytical design teams, etc) the B-70 and the SR 71 and X-15 do come to mind... honeycomb, titanium forgings, etc, etc.



WWII - I can't imagine anything any more complicated to build from scratch than the B-29, although there have been several 'equals' mentioned

Wed Aug 19, 2009 6:13 pm

B-36 of course. Im still gonna make one flying when I win the lotto. :wink: :roll: :twisted:

Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:26 pm

My vote is for the XB-70 followed by B-58 and I would love to see a B-52D with the tall tail and black belly flying in an airshow!

Wed Aug 19, 2009 7:48 pm

Have to ask....ressurect means.....????

From the ashes ? Nada....none exist

Or

Take something that we still have but has been sitting around for a long time ?

Huge difference.

I would think restoring a B36 to fly would be much simpler than recreating a B32 from scratch..no ?

Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:31 pm

I think the most difficult would be the R6V Lockheed Consitution based on the sheer complexity and rarity.

Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:51 am

Actually, the ultimate in scratch-built Warbird complexity would have to be the Space Shuttle... not only would you have to build the vehicle and launch stack, but also build up all the infrastructure!

Although, maybe a 1/20 scale replica could work... with of course a scaled-down 747 to launch it from... hehehe

There's a guy building a homebuilt, scaled-down B-17... way cool, although if I were him and serious enough to actually tackle such a project, I would have jumped 2 logical steps beyond, and done a 2-seat B-36... proportions might not scale so well as the B-17, though.

Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:00 am

Merlin_FAC wrote:Actually, the ultimate in scratch-built Warbird complexity would have to be the Space Shuttle... not only would you have to build the vehicle and launch stack, but also build up all the infrastructure!

Although, maybe a 1/20 scale replica could work... with of course a scaled-down 747 to launch it from... hehehe

There's a guy building a homebuilt, scaled-down B-17... way cool, although if I were him and serious enough to actually tackle such a project, I would have jumped 2 logical steps beyond, and done a 2-seat B-36... proportions might not scale so well as the B-17, though.


I would think any 'scale down' has to consider the engine as the most important criteria - than scale from physical dimension/plumbing required for engine system to maintain scale and lines.
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