T-33 Down at 8 Wing / CFB Trenton - Pilot OK

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

Great discussion, thanks Paul.

mlenoch · **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:19 pm

I have a secondary latch cover over the lower forward latch on the ammo doors. This is to prevent the latch from popping open.
FYI,
VL

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

vlado wrote:

I have a secondary latch cover over the lower forward latch on the ammo doors. This is to prevent the latch from popping open.
FYI,
VL

Thanks for the info, Vlado. Do you know of any other T-33 operators who have modified their latches and/or doors to prevent them from popping open?

peter · **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:47 pm

Are the ammo door latches available?

mlenoch · **Posted:** Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:10 pm

The secondary latch idea came from Steve Hinton. I assume he has that on all his T-birds. I'll post pix soon.
VL

peter · **Posted:** Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:33 am

Vlado I meant the origianl latches.

mlenoch · **Posted:** Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:07 am

Peter, I don't know if these latches are Lockheed or general aviation types or specific to the T-33. Also, I have not seen these latches listed by any T-33 spare parts offerings/sales.
VL

peter · **Posted:** Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:43 am

ah ok thanks Vlad

Stormin · **Posted:** Fri Jul 24, 2009 8:30 am

That was a great post Paul...

There are three latches on each armament door. As a practice Paul and I have the door open or close it with the latches secure. Then it gets checked secure once again on the prefight. As far as a modification to the existing system I think keeping an open mind to some ideas out there is prudent. Will you have your T-bird up in OSH Vlado ?

Paul Thomas · **Posted:** Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:03 pm

Just as an update on the T-Bird at Trenton from JAM:

Our maintenance team was at Mountainview preparing our last three T-Birds for ferrying to London when the incident of another T-Bird going off the end of the runway at Trenton occurred. The team took part of their last day of the expedition to go to Base Trenton and take one of our empty engine containers and remove the engine from the crash and seal it into the container for transport to the USA. The owner, Anthony Garrison, has now donated the airframe to the Jet Aircraft Museum and we have a team again going to Trenton this week to remove valuable parts and arrange to have a scrap dealer pick up the carcass; a sad end of a beautiful airplane.

BTW, we hope to ferry the last 3 CT-133's the week of September 8th. One aircraft is ready now, and the other 2 need a little more work, but should hopefully be completed in August.

We are also planning an open house the week-end of September 12th and 13th, and will also be part of Doors Open London the following week-end. Sure will be cool to see all 6 T-Birds on the ramp! There will be more details on the website, as soon as I get them.

Paul

Fouga23 · **Posted:** Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:54 am

Paul Thomas wrote:

we have a team again going to Trenton this week to remove valuable parts and arrange to have a scrap dealer pick up the carcass; a sad end of a beautiful airplane.

Paul

Oh, Gary!.....

Seriously, maybe the cockpit section can be saved by a collector or museum?

BHawthorne · **Posted:** Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:11 am

Paul Thomas wrote:

Just as an update on the T-Bird at Trenton from JAM:

Our maintenance team was at Mountainview preparing our last three T-Birds for ferrying to London when the incident of another T-Bird going off the end of the runway at Trenton occurred. The team took part of their last day of the expedition to go to Base Trenton and take one of our empty engine containers and remove the engine from the crash and seal it into the container for transport to the USA. The owner, Anthony Garrison, has now donated the airframe to the Jet Aircraft Museum and we have a team again going to Trenton this week to remove valuable parts and arrange to have a scrap dealer pick up the carcass; a sad end of a beautiful airplane.

BTW, we hope to ferry the last 3 CT-133's the week of September 8th. One aircraft is ready now, and the other 2 need a little more work, but should hopefully be completed in August.

We are also planning an open house the week-end of September 12th and 13th, and will also be part of Doors Open London the following week-end. Sure will be cool to see all 6 T-Birds on the ramp! There will be more details on the website, as soon as I get them.

Paul

I'd suggest at the very least, not scrapping the cockpit section. There are people out there that look for cockpit only projects. Even in stripped condition the cockpit a useful project for someone. For example, I'm restoring a F-84F cockpit at the moment. I just wish the airframe wasn't so far away or I'd be interested in picking up the cockpit section myself.

Why doesn't your museum cut down the cockpit section and make it into an interactive display. Run Microsoft flight simulator hooked up to it. Certainly much better use of it than just scrapping it.

vernicator · **Joined:** Fri Apr 14, 2006 11:42 am **Posts:** 350

I live not far away from Trenton and I'd love to take it off your hands if you're just going to throw it away!!

Chuck Gardner · **Posted:** Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:36 am

You shouldnt call it "Doors Open London", isnt that what caused the crash?????

peter · **Posted:** Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:58 am

If anyone wants that cockpit contact Robert hewitt at JAM ASAP!

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