Can anyone identify this airplane?
Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:46 am
Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:38 am
Kinda looks like an early North American product. That tail and the way the wings are attached to the center section sure looks like they share some of the same DNA as the T-6.
Gary
Gary
Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:12 pm
Definitely North American Aviation, may be one of the early Harvards (Mk.I) or NA-16 era.
Why? The roll over cage, structure, wing, tail feathers are all definitely from the NA T-6/Harvard family. Similar structure and look to the CAC Wirraway, a licence built NAA type, but I don't thin it's in Aus!
Drop a line to 'MacHarvard' - I'm sure he'll ID the subtype for you.
Or post in the main forum.
Why? The roll over cage, structure, wing, tail feathers are all definitely from the NA T-6/Harvard family. Similar structure and look to the CAC Wirraway, a licence built NAA type, but I don't thin it's in Aus!
Drop a line to 'MacHarvard' - I'm sure he'll ID the subtype for you.
Or post in the main forum.
Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:19 am
I just posted about this one on the Wreckchasing forum last week:
http://pacaeropress.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3573457
And here's the original link to the shorpy.com site which has more info:
http://www.shorpy.com/node/6496
It's a North American BC-1 trainer, serial 37-670, ancestor to the T-6. The pilot was Lt. Col. Leslie MacDill, for whom MacDill Field was named.
http://pacaeropress.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3573457
And here's the original link to the shorpy.com site which has more info:
http://www.shorpy.com/node/6496
It's a North American BC-1 trainer, serial 37-670, ancestor to the T-6. The pilot was Lt. Col. Leslie MacDill, for whom MacDill Field was named.
Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:54 am
Thanks guys! Things seem to get around. I got it from the joke section of a Tractor forum.
Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:06 am
No doubt 100% identifiable.
The airplane picture is a Fairchild Cornel.
I have a wreck of one sitting in my yard that looks similar to the one Pictured
The airplane picture is a Fairchild Cornel.
I have a wreck of one sitting in my yard that looks similar to the one Pictured
Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:50 am
I would agree it is a BC-1 as well and not a PT-26
Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:29 pm
Are you sure???
Rudder, V stab , H stab, wood skinned wings , tail wheel and fairing , fairing around the base of the V stab all say Fairchild Cornel.
Even the wing attach point fairing on the wing and the burnt melted one at the fuse look Cornel.
Rudder, V stab , H stab, wood skinned wings , tail wheel and fairing , fairing around the base of the V stab all say Fairchild Cornel.
Even the wing attach point fairing on the wing and the burnt melted one at the fuse look Cornel.
Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:04 pm
Boy, I dunno......the bottom of the rudder sure looks like BC-1 to me, and that looks like the remains of the baggage compartment door frame just aft of the rear cockpit.
Gary
Gary
Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:45 pm
Ya maybe , I can't find any good pics of a BC-1 to compare.
Was it a fabric fuselage like the one in the pic?
If so I am guessing a BC-1 is the equivalent of what we called a North American Harvard mk 1
Was it a fabric fuselage like the one in the pic?
If so I am guessing a BC-1 is the equivalent of what we called a North American Harvard mk 1
Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:22 pm
fleet16b wrote:Ya maybe , I can't find any good pics of a BC-1 to compare.
Was it a fabric fuselage like the one in the pic?
If so I am guessing a BC-1 is the equivalent of what we called a North American Harvard mk 1
Yes, I believe the BC-1s, or at least the early North American stuff, were equipped with fabric covered aft fuselages.
Interesting discussion here.
Gary
Thu Jul 23, 2009 3:55 pm
http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/25349a.jpg
I see rivets on the wing and wing to center section attach angles... That's no PT!
I see rivets on the wing and wing to center section attach angles... That's no PT!
Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:45 am
scroll down to the last reply on the webpage 
It's a North American BC-1 trainer, serial 37-670, ancestor to the T-6. The pilot was Lt. Col. Leslie MacDill, for whom MacDill Field was named
November 9, 1938. Washington, D.C. "Two U.S. Army fliers -- Lieut. Col. Leslie MacDill, General Staff Corps Officer, and Private Joseph G. Gloxner -- were burned to death today in the worst aerial tragedy in the history of the Capital when their plane crashed on a street in Anacostia, a short distance from Bolling Field. Three automobiles were wrecked in the crash. Col. MacDill was piloting the plane." Harris & Ewing Collection glass negative
It's a North American BC-1 trainer, serial 37-670, ancestor to the T-6. The pilot was Lt. Col. Leslie MacDill, for whom MacDill Field was named
November 9, 1938. Washington, D.C. "Two U.S. Army fliers -- Lieut. Col. Leslie MacDill, General Staff Corps Officer, and Private Joseph G. Gloxner -- were burned to death today in the worst aerial tragedy in the history of the Capital when their plane crashed on a street in Anacostia, a short distance from Bolling Field. Three automobiles were wrecked in the crash. Col. MacDill was piloting the plane." Harris & Ewing Collection glass negative
Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:11 pm
You mean we should actually read stuff on the internet??? I was kind of getting used to guessing what this was. It was certainly more fun than just knowing the answer right away. 
Gary
Gary
Fri Jul 24, 2009 1:11 pm
retroaviation wrote:You mean we should actually read stuff on the internet??? I was kind of getting used to guessing what this was. It was certainly more fun than just knowing the answer right away.
Gary
Any body ever tell you "yer funny"
