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Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:19 am
If you ever dump or discard old magazines, beware, as your name, address and account information is often coded on that sticker. Of course, no one here would discard Air Magazines of any kind! Just Beware, the fraudsters are out there!
Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:19 am
tom d. friedman wrote:this is a scam that affects countless publications, from air classics to good house keeping magazine. 3rd party sleeze bags get your subscription info & try to dupe you to extend or renew your subscription. i subscribe to 7 warbird mags, & countless retail trade journals, & they are all affected by this scam. the f.b.i. should be clued in to this. it is blatant fraud, & i'd bet most publishers have no control of it.
Would you care to list the 7? I can think of about 4 or 5 not counting Challenge Pubs magazines.
Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:53 am
In reading this thread, I usually try to stay neutral in something that I'm not involved with...ie, I don't have any subscriptions....But what Steve B. wrote, man , I am still laughing!!!!!
Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:07 am
If you think subscribing to Air Classics is a crappy deal, you should try writing for them!
I did neither and still managed the piss him off
Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:34 am
John Dupre wrote:tom d. friedman wrote:this is a scam that affects countless publications, from air classics to good house keeping magazine. 3rd party sleeze bags get your subscription info & try to dupe you to extend or renew your subscription. i subscribe to 7 warbird mags, & countless retail trade journals, & they are all affected by this scam. the f.b.i. should be clued in to this. it is blatant fraud, & i'd bet most publishers have no control of it.
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the chosen 7..... warbirds int. , air classics, air & space smithsonian, flypast, aviation history, flight journal, general aviation magazine, trade a plane.. i'm a book worm!!!
Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:46 am
Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:33 pm
So why hasn't Clallenge Publications pursued a mail fraud case against the firms that have done a great deal of damage to its business? Is it because they leaked or sold our subscription information? How come it seems that nobody knows what the deal is with this issue?
Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:01 am
i'd say the financial personal info / basic info is to vast to explore ...zigawertz worth of data to be dug through. in this economy most companies could'nt even afford a padlock!!
Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:52 am
CraigBirkhold wrote:So why hasn't Clallenge Publications pursued a mail fraud case against the firms that have done a great deal of damage to its business? Is it because they leaked or sold our subscription information? How come it seems that nobody knows what the deal is with this issue?

Because obviously Jack is a bigger threat to their well being.
Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:04 am
Can I subscribe to "Jack's Vintage Aviation Photos Magazine"? (I think they don't like the competition???!!!!!!

If people can look at his pics here, why would they buy the mag?
Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:20 am
Because obviously Jack is a bigger threat to their well being
Actually the truth is actually really way much stupider than anything ya'll could dream up
Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:25 am
.......Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law!
Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:28 am
Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:27 pm
Air Classics sux even worse than I thought. Never again will I buy any of their products that is for darn sure.
Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:53 pm
It certainly is kind of funny--and reassuring--to find that I'm not the only one who has had the kind of treatment at the hands of the great O'Leary.
I let my subscription run out a few years back and really haven't missed it.
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