Dead Airplanes on Popsickle Sticks

Holedigger · **Posted:** Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:03 pm

Outside the Aviation Museum in Bodo Norway. I think it may be fiberglass(would almost have to be to survive there for any length of time! That and it would be a waste of a perfectly good bird!!!) Very nice museum.

Clifford Bossie · **Posted:** Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:55 pm

Matt Gunsch wrote:

here are a couple of "preserved" planes on a stick in the Phoenix area,

This used to be in front of the base hospital at Luke AFB, no idea where it is now. Might be beer cans by now

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It was moved to the March Museum many moons ago.

Clifford Bossie · **Posted:** Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:02 pm

F-100F 56-3812 on a pole in Duncan, AZ.

F-86D 51-5915 in San Carlos, AZ.

B-47E 51-2347 and B-52F 57-0038 both at the Oklahoma City Fairgrounds. The BUFF has since gone to Palmdale, CA, but off hand I can't remember where the B-47 went.

Airlift48 · **Joined:** Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:01 pm **Posts:** 738

Have any "dead airplanes on a stick" ever been taken down and restored to fly?

viking73 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:21 pm

Thanks for the pictures Cliff.

That F-86D in San Carlos is looking pretty rough

Matt Gunsch · **Posted:** Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:52 pm

Airlift48 wrote:

Have any "dead airplanes on a stick" ever been taken down and restored to fly?

The CWH Lancaster is the only one that comes to mind

tulsaboy · **Posted:** Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:48 pm

The OKC B-47E is in Wichita. The C-47 and Aero Commander are still in OKC with a trade school.

kevin

PinecastleAAF · **Joined:** Fri May 25, 2007 4:50 pm **Posts:** 1027

Quote:

Have any "dead airplanes on a stick" ever been taken down and restored to fly?

A Spitfire or two I think, at least they were gate guards not sure if they were pole dancers.

Avn-Tech · **Joined:** Fri May 22, 2009 11:00 am **Posts:** 116

Group,

In the late 80's or early 90's a deal was made with the US Air Force to trade fiberglass replicas for gate guards. The replicas sat in the Edwards AFB museum storage yard for years and from my understanding did not hold up well. I understand the air force will not do any more swaps like that.

Then there is the C-130 deal (with Forestry Dept) that fell apart, and the Army OV-01, deal/Scam depending on who you talk to.

Probably difficult to get planes from the US government anymore, with the exception of Air Force Musuem and trades.

There was a P-47D from south of the boarder that was pulled from a pole or museum for sale several years ago.

Laterrrr
Avn-Tech

Ken · **Posted:** Tue Jun 16, 2009 5:11 am

Didn't a B-25 come off a pole in a PA Veteran's cemetary?

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:24 am

Ken wrote:

Didn't a B-25 come off a pole in a PA Veteran's cemetary?

Yes, I am not sure where that one is today, but the cemetary is somewhat local.

Holedigger · **Posted:** Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:30 am

Even fiberglass replicas out in the elements need maintenance. They will not corrode like REAL AIRPLANES but will look pretty shoddy in short order without regular cleaning and refurbishment. Would think it would be LESS work for the gatekeepers to upkeep them though, and get historic airframes to better protected locals. Unfortunately, I don't see a change in policy happening, and even if they replace the REAL birds with fiberglass, it will probably mean scraping rather than preservation! :cry:

mustangdriver · **Posted:** Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:38 am

Avn-Tech wrote:

Group,

In the late 80's or early 90's a deal was made with the US Air Force to trade fiberglass replicas for gate guards. The replicas sat in the Edwards AFB museum storage yard for years and from my understanding did not hold up well. I understand the air force will not do any more swaps like that.

Then there is the C-130 deal (with Forestry Dept) that fell apart, and the Army OV-01, deal/Scam depending on who you talk to.

Probably difficult to get planes from the US government anymore, with the exception of Air Force Musuem and trades.

There was a P-47D from south of the boarder that was pulled from a pole or museum for sale several years ago.

Laterrrr
Avn-Tech

I know what heat I will get for saying this, but we had a deal with the PA ANG and the NMUSAF to get the P-51D off of the pole, restore it to fly, and keep it at the museum at Beaver. The deal was that we could never sell it outside of PA, and that we had to replace the Mustang with a full scale replica. Mr. Tallichet said we can have one for a price. After a few weeks, the replica was put up, we removed the one on the pole, and then Tallichet sold the P-47 and P-51 we had. He found some loop hole in our contract with it to sell it. From that time on, the USAF wanted no part in helping our museum because of that. I am not sure how that relationship is now. That P-51 is the one that flies with the NACA markings on it now.

P51Mstg · **Joined:** Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:36 am **Posts:** 1202

The B-25 on the pole at the cemetary was privately owned. It was in Mt. Lebanon PA at Donaldson's Crossroads. It went to Harry Doan, then to Cavanaugh in TX. "How Boot That?"

Mark H

seaknight15 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:31 am

The b-25 that was on a pole at Paul Bunyon land in Brainard Mn. went to florida but have not heard who has it .The last time I saw it it was 95% complete on the inside.

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