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Mon May 04, 2009 3:58 pm

ARE there any black pilots that fly currently fly Mustangs? I don't know that I've ever heard of any. And typically, if you're a woman, black, or whatever, that's usually front page news time and time again. So my guess is that there aren't any out there...especially enough to have a squadron of them for the "accuracy" that's being questioned in the movie.

Just my $.02 worth.

Gary

Mon May 04, 2009 3:58 pm

wow.., I do not know what to say to flyingheritage.. except.. ..,

:roll:
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Mon May 04, 2009 4:00 pm

and by the way.., they are trying to make this movie authentic and delving on 'accuracy'.., which is why they are dressing up the non-black pilots for the flying scenes!!!

good grief!!!! :shock:
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Mon May 04, 2009 4:07 pm

330- and your idea of movie accuracy revolves around what? CGI?

Attacking others because they have a opinion which is different to yours?

Unlike many here, if i made a movie id go the extra bit and ensure accuracy is adhered to.

If they have a budget of $x m - a few more $ isnt going to matter i feel.

Mon May 04, 2009 4:09 pm

flyingheritage wrote:330- and your idea of movie accuracy revolves around what? CGI?

Attacking others because they have a opinion which is different to yours?

Unlike many here, if i made a movie id go the extra bit and ensure accuracy is adhered to.

If they have a budget of $x m - a few more $ isnt going to matter i feel.


Wait a minute.., Just wait a minute...,
Are you suggesting that they should train the non-pilot lead actors to be rated in P-51's?

Or train black pilot's, already type-rated in P-51's to be actors?

Is that what you are proposing?

Really?

No one is attacking you.., we are just all stunned by your feable attempts to make an issue out of a 'non-issue'!
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Mon May 04, 2009 4:22 pm

In 1-3yrs lead in time for the movie if they had of used some planning....... they could of got maybe some black americans trained ( since everyone on this forum claims there are none in the USA it seems) to fly mustangs.

Quite simple. Uprate some pilots.

Oh dear ...guess you cant see that can you?

Care to show where i suggest NON pilots should be trained to fly such Mustang aircraft?

Your making that statement up now fella.

Most pilots last time i looked require licesnes and ratings. Did that slip your mind?

Mon May 04, 2009 4:25 pm

yah.., :roll: you got all the answers kid. :shock:

Keep up the good work and keep us all informed when your next major motion picture comes out!

Over and out!

Mon May 04, 2009 4:47 pm

Larry, I mean, Flyingheritage, you should really just settle down a bit since most of us really do not care about your wacky rants. Trying to make something out of nothing is really getting boring.

I am sure the production planner did not want to spend a few million more dollars of Lucas money to train someone for a job that someone else can do and I am sure the owners of these aircraft do not really feel like having their birds used as trainers.

The movie is about honoring the Tuskegee Airmen and that alone is reason to celebrate this movie being done.

Mon May 04, 2009 4:51 pm

flyingheritage wrote:In 1-3yrs lead in time for the movie if they had of used some planning....... they could of got maybe some black americans trained ( since everyone on this forum claims there are none in the USA it seems) to fly mustangs.

Quite simple. Uprate some pilots.

Oh dear ...guess you cant see that can you?

Care to show where i suggest NON pilots should be trained to fly such Mustang aircraft?

Your making that statement up now fella.

Most pilots last time i looked require licesnes and ratings. Did that slip your mind?


The picture is of the owner of the P40 who was flying his P40 for the movie, similarly another friend of mine was there flying his P51 most probably with a similar outfit on.
Both of these gentlemen own and operate their own aircraft and do not turn them over to just any pilot to fly them about. The alternative would have been no/fewer real aircraft available for filming.

Mon May 04, 2009 5:08 pm

I know of a couple of really nice black fellows who fly for several major US airlines - and one of them flys a T-6 as well - Ober and Mike should know who I'm talking about.
On the other hand, I can't believe I'm adding to this thread... It's pointless.

Ryan

????

Mon May 04, 2009 5:14 pm

Here's a link which somes up this whole thread :idea: :roll:
http://somethingpointless.com/

Mon May 04, 2009 5:22 pm

Now if they hired Tom Cruise to fly his 'Stang in blackface I'd pay to see that!

SPANNER

Mon May 04, 2009 7:09 pm

RyanShort1 wrote:I know of a couple of really nice black fellows who fly for several major US airlines - and one of them flys a T-6 as well - Ober and Mike should know who I'm talking about.
On the other hand, I can't believe I'm adding to this thread... It's pointless.

Ryan


Forgot about him, Ryan. Good point. He's a good stick. I also agree that there's really no reason for me to continue with this thread. :?

Gary

Mon May 04, 2009 7:39 pm

They wanted real planes in the movie. They had to compromise to get real planes filmed. Sure a few people are questioning the original post author. He's questioning the integrety of the film casting and those flying in it. He should be willing to have the same scrutiny on him as he puts on the topic or not post about it.

Frankly, I'm happy the film is being made and with a big named director and a big budget. Anything Hollywood level is always a compromise to get things done. We can wax over idealistic all we want but the reality is this is who they picked and who they used. I see it in no way detracting from the overall goal of the movie. Those that think otherwise are welcome to thier opinion, but then again I have my own opinion on the matter too. Debating the whole issue is just gossip mongering.

Mon May 04, 2009 7:41 pm

All this started by someone who argued last year that the use of the term Japanese was not offensive? WOW.
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