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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:19 am 
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a side bar to the other thread.....ww 2 italian air force experimental warbird info is rarer than anything!!! i know of the early 40's slow assed turkey jet, but really nothing else pertaining to the topic of their x- planes. :?: :?: :?: if i recall the italian's 1st jet prototype had crude lines ressembling the p-80 shooting stars years before it's inception.

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Funny you should mention Tom.

I have been looking for books on Italian WW2 prototypes & research AC almost for years now !!!


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The one thing you can safely say about Italian aircraft is that they will handle beautifully, so I would expect their wartime experimentals to do so.


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The first jet you are talking about Tom is the Caproni Campini.

A piston driven turbine :? :roll:

Reported as a "real" underperformer.

The configuration was close to the P-80 only by the fact of having a fuse mounted engine & a low mounted wing with regular tail. For the reast, it looks like a standard wing profile & tail layout of Italian birds of the same area.

Only a few where made & one survived complete while another fuselage used for testing is also still around. Not bad for a survival rate :D

From Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campini_Caproni_CC.2

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OK....just curious.

Quoted from Wiki....

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Following World War II, one of the prototypes was shipped to the United Kingdom for study at the Royal Aircraft Establishment at Farnborough.


Most probably from the mentionned book:
The Jet Race and the Second World War

http://www.greenwood.com/catalog/C9355.aspx

A) Anyne has a copy & is it a good book ? Definitively looks like a good read.

B) Anyone seen pics of this at Farnborough ? Was it repainted ?


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Didn't we rather cover this in some detail before?

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/p ... hp?t=26358

There's some fascinating books and websites on Italian aircraft of W.W.II. They're mostly in ~gasp~ Italian. With a bit of effort a good deal of the language can be figured out, IMHO, if you have a bit of English or French (or Spanish or Latin, all being Romance languages) but I do have a bit of a head start there. Web, try www.google.it - "pagine provenienti da: Italia". Getting the books outside Italy can be a trick, so it's a good excuse to visit. Have a coffee while you are there! ;) Otherwise try your serious aviation bookshops. There are good books on most major aspects in English, often produced in Poland, etc.

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Didn't we rather cover this in some detail before?


I guess we did James :D

I am still curious about the Farnborough period of one of the bird however.

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Have a coffee while you are there


Coffee :? :!: :shock: OK maybee an espresso early AM....but then...bring on the vino. Anyway it's a table condiment like salt & pepper in Italy :D

For actually visiting....well, I'll have to wait untill the kids get older :)


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Coffee :? :!: :shock: OK maybee an espresso early AM....but then...bring on the vino. Anyway it's a table condiment like salt & pepper in Italy :D

For actually visiting....well, I'll have to wait untill the kids get older :)

You are right there. And so it should be. It's not vino da tavola for nothing... Hey, sell the kids, the wine's cheap!

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I am still curious about the Farnborough period of one of the bird however.

Since I had my copy of War Prizes lifted, I've not been able to check, I have a vague recollection of it on show in natural metal. IIRC, it was not flown or repainted in the UK, just displayed before return to Italy. Anyone with a copy of Butler's great book or who knows more...

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