what do the lady wixers think of ww 2 era nose art??

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:33 pm

boy's..... smoke em if ya got em, or have a cold one!! this question is for the ladies.( www....) "women warbird wixers"......... what is your view on risque, nose art work of ww 2?? offended?? good sports?? accept the spirit of the era?? please, no ethics lectures if you don't agree , i only want to know your opinion from a historical point. let's see what sissy guys reply 1st .... :wink:

man up boys!!

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:38 pm

oh cripes!!!! you can't even put a quantity of three of the letter "w" without it being highlighted these days.!!! it's not a website, i was only being sarcastic!!

cozmo · **Posted:** Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:45 pm

tom d. friedman wrote:

let's see what sissy guys reply 1st .... :wink:

man up boys!!

see first response.

My daughter doesn't care for some of the more risque ones. "Spirit of Waco" is okay but I'm not sure what she would have thought of "Dragon and His Tail".

Jack Cook · **Posted:** Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:47 pm

Quote:

let's see what sissy guys reply 1st .... man up boys!!

Tom, I'd like to point that you replied to your own thread :shock:

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:56 pm

burned by cozmo & jack cook...... charbroiled at that!!!

LadyO2Pilot · **Posted:** Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:46 pm

Have always appreciated the original WWII examples and the more modern versions as art. Nothing risque, just the way it was back then. Worse thing I thought happened in the past is when some Colonel's wife (IIRC) got a hard-on about naked women on the planes and then everything became PC....and "covered".......give me a break !!!!!!!!

But I do have a caveat....my plane is a "boy plane" not a "girl plane" as is conventional. And when I finally get the nose art on it will be a boy tiger...."Steel Tiger".... not a naked girl.... :lol:

so flaming may commence on my choices...

tom d. friedman · **Posted:** Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:53 pm

lady 02, i think your approach is quite original. better than the trash cougar "reality" tv that is being touted lately!!

CrewDawg · **Posted:** Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:46 pm

Ok, I'll be the first guy (besides yourself Tom) to reply, but only to pass on an experience.

I was a crew chief on B-52's at Barksdale (current home of the Mighty 8th Air Force) back in the late '80's and early '90's. We had a program where the crew chiefs of the B-52's would go down to the curator's office of the 8th Air Force Museum on the base and look through a book he had of 8th Air Force WWII nose art. We got to pick which WW II era nose art we wanted painted on our BUF's. Of course a lot of guys picked out the most risque ones they could find, but most of them got approved and painted (by hand) on the airplanes. This is still done today. Time magazine got wind of it and wrote an article titled "Bimbo's for Bombers", http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic ... 23,00.html and procedded to blast the commanders on base for allowing such inappropriate things to be painted on government property. The museum curators's wife got wind of this article and proceeded to write a letter to the editor of Time setting them straight on the historical significance of the practice of painting ladies on the side of airplanes.
The cool thing is that the curator's daughter is now married to a B-52 crew chief and is depicted on the side of his B-52 in a version of SAC Time (SAC being Strategic Air Command) and is very proud of it!

Ok that's my post, just call me a sissy boy! LOL!! :lol:

I replied because I know that the people involved are not on WIX for some dumb reason. WIXER 'chicoartist" was there during that time and probably remembers.

Robbie Roberts · **Posted:** Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:11 pm

Apologies for putzing in...

I'd far rather see a naked or scantily clad female form with some clever name than any of the current crop of ho-hum faux-patriotic claptrap inflicted on warbirds today. One only needs so many "Spirit Of..." titles of the sickly sweet and saccharine variety. The REAL noseart exemplifies the feelings of the crew- not some BS "feel" to be impressed upon others by & approved of by the commander because it is P.C.

Many of the C-17 fleet has some "Spirit of This or That" name on it. "Spirit of St. Louis" worked because it was ORIGINAL- not some cobbled up hokum to make people feel good.

Robbie
firm believer in true noseart...

bdk · **Joined:** Sun May 02, 2004 1:16 am **Posts:** 11324

Robbie Roberts wrote:

I'd far rather see a naked or scantily clad female form with some clever name than any of the current crop of ho-hum faux-patriotic claptrap inflicted on warbirds today. One only needs so many "Spirit Of..." titles of the sickly sweet and saccharine variety. The REAL noseart exemplifies the feelings of the crew- not some BS "feel" to be impressed upon others by & approved of by the commander because it is P.C.

Many of the C-17 fleet has some "Spirit of This or That" name on it. "Spirit of St. Louis" worked because it was ORIGINAL- not some cobbled up hokum to make people feel good.

So the "Spirit of the Tuskeegee Airmen" won't work for you? :?:

How about a "Sprit of the Flying Tigers" with a big shark's mouth (and a picture of John Wayne)? :lol:

I did get to see the "Spirit of Bob Hope" C-17 christened by the man himself. There was a "Spirit of John Levitow" as well (http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0398/people4.htm).

Tulio · **Joined:** Mon May 03, 2004 1:05 am **Posts:** 3236

What about "The Spirit of Jack Daniels" ?

Tulio

ColFord · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:46 am

Interesting subject. Of note, this coming Saturday in Australia and New Zealand is ANZAC Day. On the Friday evening before SBS-TV here in Australia is showing a documentary entitled "Paper Dolls - Australian Pinups of World War 2". The documentary delves into the role of pin-up girls during WW2 and how these risque images reflected hope, memories of a better time and people's longing for fun. It includes interviews with three surviving models and several former servicemen. And of course the subject touches on the use of nose art on aircraft based on the pin up girls and the memories of girl friends at home to provide a visual touch of interest and hopefully a lucky charm to the aircraft and those who flew in it. Should be an interesting program.

Regards,

Cindy · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:32 am

Geez....only one other woman replied. Does that mean there are only two of us?????

Anyway, I love the classic nose art. I don't see how anyone can be offended by it. Personally, I figure if a little bit of nose art made the boys at war feel a little better and helped them get through the hell they were in, there is no harm.
And frankly, I've seen some that I absolutely love. It's art, plane and simple

Liza · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:51 am

Others of us are here, just not commenting on the question.

Robbie Roberts · **Posted:** Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:20 pm

bdk wrote:

Robbie Roberts wrote:

I'd far rather see a naked or scantily clad female form with some clever name than any of the current crop of ho-hum faux-patriotic claptrap inflicted on warbirds today. One only needs so many "Spirit Of..." titles of the sickly sweet and saccharine variety. The REAL noseart exemplifies the feelings of the crew- not some BS "feel" to be impressed upon others by & approved of by the commander because it is P.C.

Many of the C-17 fleet has some "Spirit of This or That" name on it. "Spirit of St. Louis" worked because it was ORIGINAL- not some cobbled up hokum to make people feel good.

So the "Spirit of the Tuskeegee Airmen" won't work for you? :?:

How about a "Sprit of the Flying Tigers" with a big shark's mouth (and a picture of John Wayne)? :lol:

I did get to see the "Spirit of Bob Hope" C-17 christened by the man himself. There was a "Spirit of John Levitow" as well (http://www.af.mil/news/airman/0398/people4.htm).

There are just TOO Many "Spirit Of"s... Tuskeegee & Tigers I could accept, but there are far too many of the "Spirit Of" name. It is about as original as a mother in law joke. And almost as funny.

Robbie

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