Warbird Information Exchange

Ah dem good olde days.. i cant imagine how people nowdays would react EPA would be in demand hahaha...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL4mrxUt ... re=related

B-47 doing what it did best. smoke noise and more smoke and more noise..

how about the 1's that need a cartridge starter?? hack tewy!! cough cough!!! ever see a b-57 fire up??

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tom d. friedman - hey!!! those fokkers were messerschmitts!! * without ammunition, the usaf would be just another flying club!!! * better to have piece of mind than piece of tail!!

Ive seen some B-57 and Canberra crank up.. nowdays it is not as puffy as the old days catridges... shame shame shame..

The old days were nasty .

Ive seen a B-52 bomber crank up on SAC alert ALL 8 J-57s and the plane disappeared in a thick toxic black cloud.
Ground crew had to wear gas masks due to chemcial harm from the cartridge starting..... so cant imagine you think it is was healhty.

I wonder how many ground and pilot crews have died from exposure to the fumes of the smokey engines and cartridge starting in the 1940 to nowdays?

When I was about 5 or 6 years old, my Dad took me to an open house day at the KY ANG base in Louisville (I forget which airport, either Bowman or Standiford). They were flying RB-57s at that time. They fired up a whole line of them simultaneously, with two thick, black plumes of starter cartridge smoke emanating from each jet! Neato!

I was present for the cartridge start of a DeHavilland Venom jet back in the 1990s. It took several tries to get 'er flaming, each with its own thick, black cloud of starter smoke. Neato!

Dean the easily amused. . .

And to think I grew up with lead paint everywhere...

Lynn

I know, how did we ever survive? ha ha

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Chris Henry
EAA Aviation Museum Manager

Love the wing flex during the low level flight

Amazing how metal can obey to the laws of physic & still remain in one piece.

Considering this was a slide ruler design area that is Pretty thin wing if you think of it.

How did you survive lead paint? What about the asbestos siding we used to play and chew on?

It was to relieve wing bending moment that they suspended the engines on pylons in that unusual arrangement of a pair and a single outboard on each wing. The British V bombers had buried engines at the wing root. Each method has its plus points, for Boeing it was also that the engines were more accessible for the mechanics - and they claimed an engine fire would not weaken the wing structure. In fact the B-47 was severely limited as a bomber for much of its service and underwent a never-ending round of major modifications to obtain an improvement. Only at the end did the Air Force get true value from it. Still a gorgeous looking machine though.

And sitting in the back seat of a car, not only without a seatbelt, but laying across the seat playing with toys.

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Chris Henry
EAA Aviation Museum Manager

BUT, EVERY modern jet airliner needs to dip it's wing as it passes a static B-47. Because every one of them evolved from that 1946 design.
I always liked riding in the very back of my folks' 56 Ford Country Squire wagon on the slick floor mat with the back window open and with our dog slipping and sliding into me!!

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Don't make me go get my flying monkeys-

Better yet running into it and banging the knees and elbows on it. Guess the blood made it self cleaning....

Lynn

Oh man...the good old days!

My first posting as an Air Force SP was to walk a barbed wire fence behind a line of B-52s during a nuclear exercise. At Minot AFB North Dakota in February, the temps get down into the -30s and windchill that reached almost double that. I quickly learned that when a B-52 was loaded on the maintenance ramp, they would fire up the engines and let it run for a while. I went behind the blast shields several times to get warmed-up when the B-52 was running. Nice and toasty warm...for as long as I could hold my breath. No ill effects...yet

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Demand my respect and never gain it. -Me

...just another plane dreamer.

Come on now, this is barely below the surface, if you scratch the surface with a little more thought you can answer the question yourself.

Not to deviate too much, but the EPA is not in demand. They are overstepping all the time, and making lots of people pretty mad.

Additionally, consider a JATO takeoff. There weren't remotely enough of them to cause pollution of any kind.

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"No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we'll ever see on this earth!" R.R.

Welcome to the USSA! One Nanny State Under the Messiah, Indivisible with Tyranny, Higher Taxes, Socialism, Radical Environmentalism and a Loss of Income for all. Boy I'm proud to be a part of the USSA, what can I do to raise taxes, oh boy oh boy!

Don't, please. Jokes, good or bad are one thing, homilies another.

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James K

"Switch on the underwater landing lights"
Emilio Largo, Thunderball.

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