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F-4 Phantom for museums - "Nein"

Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:57 am

So goes the answer to my puzzle in acquiring a German Luftwaffe F-4F Phantom.... for Aussie museums...

I have to wait til 2014 at the earliest which is when the current expected fatigue and use life of the remaning 40yr old by then F-4F will be withdrawn from use and maybe then i can try again for a F-4F Phantom...

Sigh.....maybe another country might work as there is a few mothballed..

Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:48 am

I'm not seeing the problem. Is 2014 too long of a wait? Telling the museums 2014 is NOT telling them no. One would think that would give the museum plenty of time to work out the specifics. :wink:

Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:56 am

SLight problem is between NOW and then............ im told many Spookies will become spare metal/cut up etc to supply the current small fleet.. so whatever is left will be a bunfight for museums i suspect.

Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:10 am

There's always Greece or Turkey?

Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:56 am

You aren't going to get one without going through the US government. All foreign owned F-4's are subject to US approval with respect to what happens to them after they have finished their military service. This was made painfully obvious in the UK, with barely a handful of complete F-4's surviving being scrapped, as the MOD was not willing/able to pass them on without enormous effort. I think you might find this is made harder due to Iran still operating F-4's as well, much in the way that F-14's were scrapped en-masse after they were withdrawn from use. Good luck though.

All the best,
Richard

we have whole bunches in the US...

Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:35 am

they are overhauled and BLOWN UP for fun I guess..... :D
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