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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:58 pm 
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You wouldn't mind popping into Walter Soplata's place and taking a couple-ten pictures. I'd like to see pictures of the P-47 fus in the box, the P-51 fuse inside the transport, the FG1, the Avenger, The T-28s, the AD1(XP). I think theres half of a double mustang there, B25, rumours of a chunk of super corsair in the basement, all kinds of good stuff. The stuff on the internet is getting old, and any documentation on whats there seems to be half hearsay. I'm sure Walt won't mind, he'll probably have a beer waiting and a golf cart to take you around. :D

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I've got shots of the P-47, Corsair, Skyraider, and Avenger I took at Walt's place in 2002. If I could figure out a way to post them here, I would.


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The P-47 fuse has been out side for some time and close to the Skyraider. The FG1 corsair in Akron markings is under a shelter with wings folded. The corsair in the basement is the center section of Lucky Gallon, a racer. I have not seen it but friends who have told me. The F2G #74 was sold to the Crawford Museum in downtown Cleveland and Bob Odegaard has had it since 2000. I went up to see Bob 2 times and he has blasted the entire airframe and colored the center section and cockkpit areas. I have taken some pics from the air and am ganna try to get out there soon.


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I heard he has a early B-36 Airframe there also. One of the First 2 aircraft. I love to see anything from that collection. It sounds like there is alot there just not in great shape or even together.


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I'd love to, and have tried to get in, but Walt doesn't like visitors these days.

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P.S.: There are some not too old photos here:

http://s96920072.onlinehome.us/Fea1/101-200/Fea182_Walters-Farm_Williams/part1/fea182.htm


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Sad to see those a/c like that :cry: But better there then an AL pot in my house I guess.


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Randy Haskin wrote:
I've got shots of the P-47, Corsair, Skyraider, and Avenger I took at Walt's place in 2002. If I could figure out a way to post them here, I would.


Scott,dude,hook a bud up. The only internet pictures I've seen were from 1987. Since those pictures, the fg2 is gone, I think the intact twin mustang is gone, and there is something about a b25, that might or might not be gone.

I gotta give Walter his due. He saved the airplanes. In most of those cases he would have been the only one to have saved them. If he wants to keep them to himself, thats cool. The day those planes go into restoration will be a good, and a bad day. Good that they're be brought back to life, Bad, because Walt will probably be dead.

Col: I hope you can get an interview, it would be cool to know what motivated him to save all of those planes.

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Wally has not been "cranky" at all the times I've spoke and visited, but it is true that visitors are not welcome - but it's not a personality thing. You can thank the local government for the restriction due to the typical zoning and nuisance issues. He maintains this as a personal & private collection, not some psuedo "museum". He is adamant that no photos are taken so that they do not end up in an article, once again causing alot of folks to start stopping by.....(that's his view to me, at least)


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This is the trip report that I posted to rec.aviation.military after my visit to the Soplata Farm in '02:

I had a chance to visit the Walt Soplata farm this past week...a very
interesting experience.

For those who don't know about the Soplata Farm, Mr. Soplata is a junk
collector who also happens to share an affinity for airplanes. The results
of his 50-years of saving airplanes from the scrap heap and smelter are
resting next to his house in Newbury, Ohio, along with all the other junk he
collects like cars, books and magazines, trucks, old computer and
electronics, and other scrap. It is not a museum -- the airplanes are not
there for display, but are the personal collection of Mr. Soplata. The
airplanes are all in derelict condition -- wrecked, in pieces, and rotting
away exposed to the midwest US weather. He purchased these airplanes over the years as his own hobby, and in many cases, has saved some one-of-a-kind airplanes from destruction when nobody else (especially the US military) cared about them.

First of all, I was glad that someone had posted directions on how to find
his place here on USEnet, otherwise I *never* would have found it. It is
buried away from sight off a dirt road. When I got there, I was amazed by the sight from the dirt road in front of his house...what a junkpile! I'd
seen photos of the Soplata farm on other webpages
(http://209.133.73.85/Fea/0001-1000/Fea_ ... Walters-Fa
rm_Williams/part1/Fea182.htm), so I had a general idea of what to expect
when I got there. What I didn't know, however, was what would actually be there, since I'd heard of at least two airplanes from there being sold off
and restored (http://www.airrace.com/corsair74.htm). In addition, I'd read here on r.a.m. that Mr. Soplata was possibly dead.

Anyhow, I walked up to his house and knocked, but nobody answered. I heard of others visiting Walt's farm and just walking through things without
asking, so I thought I'd go see what I could without being too intrusive.

Even right there at the house, and I was amazed with what was there. On his front lawn was a wingless T-6...in front of his door, a T-33 fuselage and
the cockpit to a Victor...in the driveway the cockpit to a DC-7. I started
strolling up the path through the junkpile, passing on the right side a B-52
fuselage on it's side, a Howard DG-A fuselage, a BT-13 fuselage, and a
complete F-86F. On the left side of the path were a T-28 fuselage, what
looked to be an AT-11 (I could just see the bombardier nose) and a Boeing commercial airliner cockpit. I spotted what I initially believed was a P-51H, but on closer inspection, it turned out to be the left fuselage of
the XP-82 (44-83887). I snapped a few photos, then left the main path to
the right and waded through the tall grass toward a complete FG-1Corsair
with the wings folded. Next to the Corsair was one of the Skyraider
prototypes (XBT2D-1, BuNo 09103). Also scattered around were a complete B-25J, a F7U Cutlass jet, and a P-47N fuselage. Further to the west was a C-82 fuselage and a Sikorsky helo of some kind stuffed amongst the trees.

It was at this point that Mr. Soplata walked out to find me...he is still
alive and well and "working" on his collection. Initially he was not happy
that I was out looking at his junk, and was *really* not happy that I was
taking pictures! Apparently Mr. Soplata has had some problems with people visiting his farm and the IRS thinking he "runs a museum". So, he asked me to stop taking pictures, and to not publish the photos in any publications, which might encourage more people to come visit his airplanes. He asked me to leave, so I apologized to him and I followed him back out to my car on
the dirt driveway. On the way, however, he asked me who I was and why I was
there. During the course of our conversation, he must have realized I was
an airplane enthusiast just like him because soon he was leading me on a
guided tour of his collection and talking away about every single airplane!

Anyone who meets Mr. Soplata may get the impression that he's a doddering
old man. It's true that he doesn't come across as the brightest individual,
but after spending an afternoon talking with him about his hobby and his
airplanes, I realize that he's really just old and eccentric. He has an
amazing memory when it comes to aviation, and especially recalling specifics
about his airplanes. Every airplane we'd walk up to, he'd give me a
detailed history of where he got it, how much he paid for it, and even
specific service histories of the airframes he had. It's very evident that
he cares about his airplanes -- he does what he can to protect them from the
weather by covering up cockpits and canopies, and building small shelters
over some. He even talked quite a bit about how he was going to "put them
all back together", which is obviously an overly ambitious project for an
elderly man given the condition of some of the airplanes.

We talked about people buying airplanes from him -- I tried to talk him into
selling me his T-6 or his BT-13 -- and he indicated that he didn't like to
sell off his airplanes. "It's my hobby," he said, "and I paid for these
with my own money." He said that people have come to him many times and
offered to buy individual items or even the whole collection. "There's a
guy in Texas who wanted to buy everything, and he even offered to build me a
house down there just so I could still live next to my airplanes!" Another
collector offered him $3 million for everything "and maybe I should have
taken him up on it, I dunno." Recently he has sold off a P-82 Twin Mustang
and an F2G Corsair, "so I could pay off the IRS," he said. He's especially
against having any of his airplanes fly again -- he mentioned several times
how angry he was that rare warbirds that have been restored to flying
condition and are flown on the airshow circuit get destroyed in crashes.
Apparently there was a stipulation with the sale of the F2G Corsair racer
that it never be flown again. Other than that, he has no intentions of
selling much of anything as long as he's alive.

When he dies, however, he says "everything will be for sale in
Trade-a-Plane" with the money going to support his children. He mentioned
who he planned to be the executor of his will and who will arrange the sale,
but I don't remember who it was.

So, Mr. Soplata spent the rest of the afternoon showing me the rest of his
collection, including his famous YB-36 which is sitting there cut up into
many pieces. I also saw a complete TBM Avenger, F-86E, F-84, T-50, and
Fleetwing (which he says is the only one still in existence). There were
also fuselages for a Canberra, an F-105, a few T-28s, another TBM....there
are just too many to list from memory.

All in all it was a very interesting visit. I sincerely hope that these
aircraft find their way to a museum or into better care before they're gone.


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Here are a couple shots, all ready on the WRG website:

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Note the canopy of the P-47 at the extreme left of the photo.

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I'm sending Scott a few more. As you can read from my writeup, I took some photos at the beginning of the visit, then stopped shooting as per Mr. Soplata's request.


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With all due respect colonel, will your book be more grammatically correct than your 321 posts?


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Hi Rob,
He's listed in the phone-book for Newbury Ohio... I looked him up about seven years ago. I went to his place a couple of times, and interviewed him on video... very informally. Unfortunately these days, his wife usually answers the phone, and she is very guarded about who he talks to. I tried two years ago, the last time I went to the air racing symposium, but she quickly shut down the idea of me visiting. Your best bet actually is to go to next years air racing symposium, as he usually attends. Hope this helps.

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Col. Rohr wrote:
Could you send me the link to the directions how to get to Walts place. I might just atke a weekend and fly over and try to talk with him.

With your last visit do you think he would be open to me using a tape recorder to interview him.


Rob, I've since lost the actual set of directions I used to get there, but I obtained them from a rec.aviation.military post, so a hour on Google ought to yield you some useable results.

As far as an interview...as you can see from my writeup, Mr Soplata is a very "interesting" individual. On one hand he has an unbelievable memory when it comes to the histories of his airplanes, how he got them, and how much he paid. On the other hand, some of the things he says are completely off-the-wall, like how he was planning on putting all of his airplanes back together all by himself. He even told me a story about how he'd been visited by the ghost of the deceased Blue Angel pilot of his F11-F and been given "permission" to posess the wreckage.

Bottom line, Rob, while I'm sure you might get some real gems in an interview, you'd be treated to a lot of chaff, too.

I also did not get the impression that he cared about any publicity, cared at all about securing his place in aviation history, etc etc. I doubt he'd be interested.

That being said...it's sure as hell worth a try. He didn't want to show me a darn thing initially when I visited. I just happened to mention that I flew jets in the AF, and apparently his son is or was both a USAF pilot as well as a pilot for FedEx. Once that was out on the table, he was more than willing to talk -- so perhaps there's a way in, after all.


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Thanks Randy! Thanks Scott! I can't get enough of those pictures. It's like getting a sneak peak at King Tut's tomb. I know this might be BS, or maybe counter productive for Walter, But I would love to see a Walt Only picture section on the WRG registry. A cool person just showed me somemore great Walt pics that would be really cool to see there also....Just thinkin,it kinda hurts,need beer...

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