Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:37 pm
kennsmithf2g wrote:The Vought Hertage has a few pictures of it
http://www.voughtaircraft.com/heritage/ ... -1m_1.html
There is a nice color picture of it in the Pratt & Whitney 4360 Presentation book.
Thanks
Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:56 pm
I worked on cleaning-up the scoop drawings to make them legible so that they could be used. Took me weeks scanning them in using my desktop scanner and reassembling the puzzle in photoshop as I didn't want to cut or leave the blue-prints anywhere. It would have been faster to redrawn in CAD but then I would not have been able to capture the way that J Zeamer (the P&W designer) twirled his pencil to keep the lines sharp and the slant of his text.
At the time, a dumy scoop was to have been made to put on when #57 was parked but that never happened. Cleland's nephew found te drawings stashed somewhere at his house.
One of the Tool Designers that retired from where I work used to work for Howard Hughes and worked on the jigs and fixturing for the Spruce Goose. Back then when everything was hand drawn, you could see the heart and soul of a designer by how they tried to keep their lines sharp, the slant of their lettering and their shading of curved surfaces. It was a real shame whenever I have to modify one of his drawings as my style no-where duplicates his.
At the time, a dumy scoop was to have been made to put on when #57 was parked but that never happened. Cleland's nephew found te drawings stashed somewhere at his house.
One of the Tool Designers that retired from where I work used to work for Howard Hughes and worked on the jigs and fixturing for the Spruce Goose. Back then when everything was hand drawn, you could see the heart and soul of a designer by how they tried to keep their lines sharp, the slant of their lettering and their shading of curved surfaces. It was a real shame whenever I have to modify one of his drawings as my style no-where duplicates his.
Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:27 pm
Here are a couple of pics of #74 I dug up.
Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:18 pm
Those Hangers look awfully familiar. 
Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:46 pm
MX304 wrote:kennsmithf2g wrote:The Vought Hertage has a few pictures of it
http://www.voughtaircraft.com/heritage/ ... -1m_1.html
There is a nice color picture of it in the Pratt & Whitney 4360 Presentation book.
Thanks
That photo was taken at Rentschler Field, Pratt & Whitey's airfield in East Hartford, CT. Field has been parceled up, but that hanger and tower are still there!
Jerry
Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:05 pm
Boyyy is this a surprise...Knew #74 had changed hands, but not that #57 was going to as well. Hope #57 still makes at least the occasional public appearance in Mr Pratte's ownership as she did with Mr Odegaard.
Those last two shots of #74 are luvverly, have never seen them before. Looks like she was almost USN sea blue...I had always thought her racing blue was quite a bit lighter. But then by the time I saw this magnificent machine she was a paler shade...
Summer 1982. Knew Walt had owned the F2G but wasn't sure it was still there. Caught sight of it, went ape, delighting Walt no end...what a place, what a gent. Incidentally, Walt did want to acquire both #74 and #94, but backed off because Thompson Products wanted #94...Walt was none too pleased when ultimately all that survived of #94 was the powerplant and a few other small bits. The reference to Cleland's earlier racer, FG-1A "Lucky Gallon", is correct, Walt did obtain that as well, but it had been heavily damaged in a windstorm and Walt kept only the cockpit section and inner wings. Supposedly these are (or were a decade ago) stored in Walt's basement! (During my 1982 visit Walt actually toured my dad and myself through his house, which was a sight to see, but we did not enter the basement...so I have never seen "Lucky Gallon".)
S.
Those last two shots of #74 are luvverly, have never seen them before. Looks like she was almost USN sea blue...I had always thought her racing blue was quite a bit lighter. But then by the time I saw this magnificent machine she was a paler shade...
Summer 1982. Knew Walt had owned the F2G but wasn't sure it was still there. Caught sight of it, went ape, delighting Walt no end...what a place, what a gent. Incidentally, Walt did want to acquire both #74 and #94, but backed off because Thompson Products wanted #94...Walt was none too pleased when ultimately all that survived of #94 was the powerplant and a few other small bits. The reference to Cleland's earlier racer, FG-1A "Lucky Gallon", is correct, Walt did obtain that as well, but it had been heavily damaged in a windstorm and Walt kept only the cockpit section and inner wings. Supposedly these are (or were a decade ago) stored in Walt's basement! (During my 1982 visit Walt actually toured my dad and myself through his house, which was a sight to see, but we did not enter the basement...so I have never seen "Lucky Gallon".)
S.
Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:10 pm
Is that a Spad intake scoop on #74?
????
Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:47 pm
One of my cousins named Bob Metty was a propellor design engineer and design the hub and blades for the F2Gs (and the Albatross among others). He did some work with Cook Cleland on the racer's props and retired from Hamilton Standard/United Aircraft in the early 70s after 30 years with them.
Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:44 pm
classic walt work..... but his heart is always in the right place!!!
???
Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:50 pm
What ever happen to the FG-1D he sold a year ago or so??
Is ot going to be rebuilt???
Is ot going to be rebuilt???
Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:54 pm
under new ownership in coshocton ohio. owner unknown.......
???
Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:56 pm
Ken McBride in Ca bought is. But is it being rebuilt or in storage??
Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:58 pm
I think it went to Ken McBride in the San Jose area. He's got quite a few projects in his workshop, as well as starting up a Merlin overhaul facility, manufacturing P-51 parts and a classic Chevy parts business, so I suspect it may be some time before it sees the light of day again.
Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:00 am
jack, it's more than a secret issue, but it's in the buckeye state where it's heritage is. 
Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:57 pm
Tom, sorry to say you're wrong...but I believe you're wrong. I think you are confusing the FG1D with the F2G. The FG1 went to California, while the F2G is still in North Dakota being rebuilt for a new owner that is supposedly in Ohio.
Last time I visited "00" it had a couple inches of snow on it at Walt's place. The last time I visited "74" it was completely disassembled and in a hangar in Kindred.
Last time I visited "00" it had a couple inches of snow on it at Walt's place. The last time I visited "74" it was completely disassembled and in a hangar in Kindred.