Lawyers
Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:35 pm
I dont like lawyers,I like Colt.
Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:09 am
Isn't product liability a wonderful thing?
The ONLY reason newer CESSNAS all have a cheezy shoulder belt is because someone flew head on into a sheer rock cliff and the widows attorney convinced the jury of drooling mouth breathers that the guys life could have been saved if he's only had a shoulder belt-
Remember, if you are killed in an airline crash, you're net value has already been pegged @ around $2.2 Million
The ONLY reason newer CESSNAS all have a cheezy shoulder belt is because someone flew head on into a sheer rock cliff and the widows attorney convinced the jury of drooling mouth breathers that the guys life could have been saved if he's only had a shoulder belt-
Remember, if you are killed in an airline crash, you're net value has already been pegged @ around $2.2 Million
Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:49 am
Django wrote:Please God tell me WHY I never get put on cases like this when I get called for jury duty...
What a great line !!
My only hope beyond your statement/question is that I hope I get called for the trial of our governor, Blago
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Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:00 am
ktst97 wrote:Django wrote:Please God tell me WHY I never get put on cases like this when I get called for jury duty...
What a great line !!
My only hope beyond your statement/question is that I hope I get called for the trial of our governor, Blago
You don't mean "Fire-Sale Blagovitch, where EVERY SEAT HAS A PRICE!" do you?
As to the lawsuit viz-a-viz Grumman, I hope the lawyer finds a nice sale on foam insulation materials, so he can use it to STUFF INTO THE EMPTY SPACE BETWEEN HIS EARS!
Robbie(who hates stupid litigation and litigious morons)
Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:07 am
The Inspector wrote:Isn't product liability a wonderful thing?
The ONLY reason newer CESSNAS all have a cheezy shoulder belt is because someone flew head on into a sheer rock cliff and the widows attorney convinced the jury of drooling mouth breathers that the guys life could have been saved if he's only had a shoulder belt-
Remember, if you are killed in an airline crash, you're net value has already been pegged @ around $2.2 Million
Ah, but that cheesy shoulder belt CAN save your life in the right circumstances. I'm not personally one that would force someone to wear it if the FAA didn't say you had to, and I really believe the choice should be up the manufacturer and the operator (hopefully the manufacturer will give the operator the option), but I've seen a crash first hand and believe me, I wear the seatbelt and will continue to do so! Personally, I'd rather wear a four-point harness - the more the better! It's completely bad for your head to hit the yoke or instrument panel for lack of body restraint. <shudders with memory>
Ryan
Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:31 pm
Django wrote:Please God tell me WHY I never get put on cases like this when I get called for jury duty...
A lawyer I worked with for many years told me that anybody with any education is unlikely to ever be on an American jury for a product liability case. They prefer people who can't form their own opinions, as it makes it easier to hand them one. The exception is somebody with a known prejudice - and then the odds are the other side will get him excused.
His advice to anyone going for jury selection was to read a book while waiting, preferably hardcover. you would be on your way home before you got to chapter two.
Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:13 pm
Unfortunately that is part of the problem. Too many educated people do everything they can to get out of it.
Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:22 pm
Bill Walker wrote:Django wrote:Please God tell me WHY I never get put on cases like this when I get called for jury duty...
A lawyer I worked with for many years told me that anybody with any education is unlikely to ever be on an American jury for a product liability case. They prefer people who can't form their own opinions, as it makes it easier to hand them one. The exception is somebody with a known prejudice - and then the odds are the other side will get him excused.
His advice to anyone going for jury selection was to read a book while waiting, preferably hardcover. you would be on your way home before you got to chapter two.
So if you find a way to look nicely dressed, but ghetto and maybe stuck some earphones in your head you might actually get picked? I've already been called up twice. Once I got dismissed without ever going in. Next time got called in and really wanted to get on the case - it sounded interesting - but the guy decided to plea once he saw the jury.
Ryan
Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:05 pm
The last time I was called where I actually had to go down to the courthouse was 1995. It was a civil trial where the plantiff was apparently injured on the job and was suing the employer, doctor, hospital and probably even the company that made the step ladder.
During the jury selection process we were made to fill out paperwork which basically asked us if we had any affiliation with the parties involved which I didn't. It also asked occupation and education information.
I was then called over by the Plantiff attorney for questioning. He asked me "Is it possible that in the course of this trial, that you might hear a dollar amount mentioned as compensation that you would personally consider too high?"
I said "YES".
Good bye thank you for your service. Back to the pool and then out the door with time served for 4 years.
Pete
During the jury selection process we were made to fill out paperwork which basically asked us if we had any affiliation with the parties involved which I didn't. It also asked occupation and education information.
I was then called over by the Plantiff attorney for questioning. He asked me "Is it possible that in the course of this trial, that you might hear a dollar amount mentioned as compensation that you would personally consider too high?"
I said "YES".
Good bye thank you for your service. Back to the pool and then out the door with time served for 4 years.
Pete
Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:24 pm
CH2Tdriver wrote:Good bye thank you for your service. Back to the pool and then out the door with time served for 4 years.
Pete
Reminds me of a coworker called for a jury here in Canada many years ago. He got a look at the case name, and saw a French-Canadian name. The lawyer doing his grilling asked if he had anything against residents of Welland, since that was where the defendant was from. My buddy replied "no, as long as they aren't from the east side of town". The lawyer asked what was wrong with the east side, and my friend replied "that's where all those @#!$ frenchmen live". Good bye and out the door.
Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:29 pm
I don't think I can add anything here in a civil tone but I'm with the rest of you. grrrrrr!
Sun Mar 15, 2009 9:49 am
John Dupre wrote:Didn't Grumman sell the type certificates to the amphibians to someone else who is trying to bring back the Goose? I wonder if they have some interest in the suit?
John,
Atlantic Coast Seaplanes LLC (dba Antilles Seaplanes LLC) in Gibsonville and Graham, NC bought TC 4A24 from Dan Vollum of Aero Planes LLC of Hillsboro, OR (outside Portland) in order to put the McKinnon turbine G-21G back into production. We do not have TC 654 for the original G-21A.
Even though it never got updated in the FAA TC database, Joe Frakes has had TC 654 for the original G-21A Goose, as well as TC A-783 for the G-73 series Mallards for many years (since 4/1/81 in the case of the A-783.)
As far as I know, Frakes has no new production plans for either model (G-21A or G-73) and he'd be more than happy to sell the TC's if you have several million bucks just lying around.
Of interest to me is the fact that although the McKinnon turbine Goose got its own TC (4A24), the G-73T turbine Mallard is only an STC conversion of the basic G-73 and it was only a 100 percent Frakes deal - Grumman had nothing to do with it.
In any case, "Northrop Grumman" had nothing to do with either one, so they should be able to tell Chalk's and AIG to take a hike. And if there is truly any justice, a judge should back them up on that.