Warbird Information Exchange

DISCLAIMER: The views expressed on this site are the responsibility of the poster and do not reflect the views of the management.
It is currently Wed Mar 25, 2026 6:30 pm

View unanswered posts | View active topics


Board index » General Discussion » The WIX Hangar

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Classic Wings Magazine WWII Naval Aviation Research Pacific Luftwaffe Resource Center
When Hollywood Ruled The Skies - Volumes 1 through 4 by Bruce Oriss


Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 3
  [ 38 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next
  Previous topic | Next topic 
Author Message
Glen
 Post subject: Famous Bombers !
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:27 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:08 am
Posts: 563
Location: Copperas Cove Texas
Greetings & Happy New Year !
I was wondering out side of the Enola Gay (B-29) and the Memphis Bell (B-17) Ruptured Duck (B-25) Lady Be Good (B-24) what were some other Famous Bombers ? of their types ........were they side stepped due to political correctness :roll: ? or just didn't get the just deserve credit .
As Always thanks in advance for all that respond.
PS. any photos would be nice too :wink:

_________________
Always Keep Em Flying !

Glen

Lookie Capt Jim! Wham! Wham! ...............................Termights
Top
 Profile  
 
gary1954
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:31 am 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club

Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:27 am
Posts: 2463
Location: Ellerslie Georgia, USA
I still have not been able to understand why B-25 40-2168, the ONLY B-25 left in existance is not in the NASM and given that it was Henry "Hap" Arnolds Transport aircraft.

_________________
Kind Regards,
Gary Lewis
J.A.F.O.
Top
 Profile  
 
RyanShort1
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:39 am 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:29 pm
Posts: 4528
Location: Dallas, TX
gary1954 wrote:
I still have not been able to understand why B-25 40-2168, the ONLY B-25 left in existance is not in the NASM and given that it was Henry "Hap" Arnolds Transport aircraft.


Well, if it's privately owned, the owners should have some say in the matter. If I had it, I certainly would NOT give it to the NASM - nothing against them but I'd keep it in flying condition!

Ryan

_________________
Aerial Photographer with Red Wing Aerial Photography currently based at KRBD and tailwheel CFI.
Websites: Texas Tailwheel Flight Training, DoolittleRaid.com and Lbirds.com.

The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD. - Prov. 21:31 - Train, Practice, Trust.
Top
 Profile  
 
gary1954
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:47 am 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club

Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:27 am
Posts: 2463
Location: Ellerslie Georgia, USA
I know that ya nut. The USAF should have held onto her and passed her to either the USAFM or the NASM. I fully understand the privately owned thing. Like I was born during the day, not yesterday.

_________________
Kind Regards,
Gary Lewis
J.A.F.O.
Top
 Profile  
 
Nathan
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:53 am 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club

Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:26 pm
Posts: 4974
Location: PA
what? send my favorite B-25 to the NASM? :shock: keep her flying!

_________________
Shop the Airplane Bunker At
www.warbirdbunker.com
Top
 Profile  
 
RyanShort1
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:54 am 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:29 pm
Posts: 4528
Location: Dallas, TX
gary1954 wrote:
I know that ya nut. The USAF should have held onto her and passed her to either the USAFM or the NASM. I fully understand the privately owned thing. Like I was born during the day, not yesterday.


:D From what I can tell the USAF really didn't care about a lot of that stuff until it became financially profitable or otherwise worthwhile to preserve and memorialize their history - ironic isn't it!

Ryan

_________________
Aerial Photographer with Red Wing Aerial Photography currently based at KRBD and tailwheel CFI.
Websites: Texas Tailwheel Flight Training, DoolittleRaid.com and Lbirds.com.

The horse is prepared against the day of battle: but safety is of the LORD. - Prov. 21:31 - Train, Practice, Trust.
Top
 Profile  
 
gary1954
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:12 am 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club

Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:27 am
Posts: 2463
Location: Ellerslie Georgia, USA
Profit, *chuckles* Like the Military and Government know anything about that

_________________
Kind Regards,
Gary Lewis
J.A.F.O.
Top
 Profile  
 
Matt Gunsch
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:17 am 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 10:18 pm
Posts: 3299
Location: Phoenix, Az
one is the B-32, there was one set aside for the AF museum, but it ws scrapped.

As for PC, that has not been a problem until recently. Now you are hearing people complaining about the name Strawberry B itch, or the complaints that came when the B-24J was painted as The Dragon and His Tail, Or having to paint a vest on the Yellow Rose.

_________________
Matt Gunsch, A&P, IA, Warbird maint and restorations
Jack, You have Debauched my sloth !!!!!!
We tried voting with the Ballot box, When do we start voting from the Ammo box, and am I allowed only one vote ?
Check out the Ercoupe Discussion Group on facebook
Top
 Profile  
 
Jerry O'Neill
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:20 am 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:51 pm
Posts: 4673
Location: Cheshire, CT
Some off the top of my head are:

"Falk-Bait", B-26 Marauder (ETO)
"Bockscar", B-29 Superfortress (Nagasaki Mission)
"Out House Mouse", B-17 Flying Fortress (ETO)
"Knockout Dropper", B-17 Flying Fortress (ETO)
"Betty's Dream", B-25 Mitchell (PTO)
"Chowhound", B-25 Mitchell (PTO)
"Sunshine", B-24 Liberator (MTO)
"Eager Beaver", B-17 Flying Fortress (ETO)
"Eager Beaver", B-17 Flyng Fortress (PTO)

There are more, but I guess my question is what are the criteria towards making it a "famous" bomber?
"Sunshine was "infamous", "Eager Beaver" (PTO) had two Congressional Medal of Honor reciepients on the same mission. And are we allowed to include aircraft from our allies?
Lancaster "S for Suger" comes to mind.
Jerry

_________________
"Always remember that, when you enter the ocean or the forest, you are no longer at the top of the food chain."
Top
 Profile  
 
TAdan
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:38 am 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:42 pm
Posts: 2708
Location: NP, NJ, USA
B-25 "Ruptured Duck".

_________________
Share your story: Rutgers Oral History Archive http://oralhistory.rutgers.edu/
Top
 Profile  
 
Dan K
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:39 am 
Offline
Long Time Member
Long Time Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:13 pm
Posts: 5672
Location: Minnesota, USA
"He11's Wench": B-24, 93rd BG, Double posthumous MOH on same mission (Tidal Wave)

_________________
It was a good idea, it just didn't work.
Top
 Profile  
 
gary1954
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:48 am 
Offline
2000+ Post Club
2000+ Post Club

Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:27 am
Posts: 2463
Location: Ellerslie Georgia, USA
Matt Gunsch wrote:
one is the B-32, there was one set aside for the AF museum, but it ws scrapped.

As for PC, that has not been a problem until recently. Now you are hearing people complaining about the name Strawberry B itch, or the complaints that came when the B-24J was painted as The Dragon and His Tail, Or having to paint a vest on the Yellow Rose.


Gawd, I can't stand these ultra sensitive people, cry me a river, build me bridge and get over it.. The only profane word I can think of that I don't think should be on a plane is the "F" bomb. I am sure there may be others, but Strawberry B itch ain't profane to me

_________________
Kind Regards,
Gary Lewis
J.A.F.O.
Top
 Profile  
 
RickH
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:58 am 
Offline
3000+ Post Club
3000+ Post Club
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:10 pm
Posts: 4173
Location: Pearland, Texas
PC is worse than you think.

There are always complaints from people who think that "Witchcraft" is bad because it glorifies the occult. These are probably the same folks complaining about Harry Potter !

_________________
"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass..."
Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto
Top
 Profile  
 
cozmo
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:45 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:10 pm
Posts: 489
Location: Dallas, TEXAS
I will begin by stating flatly that I HATE Political Correctness and all those who demand it.

And it ain't a righty, or lefty, thing. Both sides have their nuts.

The people who complain are ignorant of historical context and couldn't care less about accuracy.

That being said, these nuts are vocal, and those who disagree, are not. Who are the congress critters and taste bureaucrats going to listen too?

Or, even those who depend on the public for donations.

Just ask the Confed....er, Commemorative Air Force.

Could be worse though. Europe or China, or the Middle East.
Top
 Profile  
 
gregv
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:19 am
Posts: 800
Location: Vancouver BC
Jerry O'Neill wrote:
Some off the top of my head are:

"Falk-Bait", B-26 Marauder (ETO)
"Bockscar", B-29 Superfortress (Nagasaki Mission)
"Out House Mouse", B-17 Flying Fortress (ETO)
"Knockout Dropper", B-17 Flying Fortress (ETO)
"Betty's Dream", B-25 Mitchell (PTO)
"Chowhound", B-25 Mitchell (PTO)
"Sunshine", B-24 Liberator (MTO)
"Eager Beaver", B-17 Flying Fortress (ETO)
"Eager Beaver", B-17 Flyng Fortress (PTO)

There are more, but I guess my question is what are the criteria towards making it a "famous" bomber?
"Sunshine was "infamous", "Eager Beaver" (PTO) had two Congressional Medal of Honor reciepients on the same mission. And are we allowed to include aircraft from our allies?
Lancaster "S for Suger" comes to mind.
Jerry


Might as well add "Friday the 13th" to that as well, and just for looks I think "A Bit O' Lace" should be in there. And didn't "He11's Angel" do 25 before the 'Belle? Maybe one of Rudel's Stukas....

I agree with Chowhound, but it would have been great had it been shipped home in its as-returned from mission state for immediate display.

interesting topic! Should we include fighters as well?.....

greg v.
Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 1 of 3
  [ 38 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

Board index » General Discussion » The WIX Hangar

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot] and 61 guests

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Switch to mobile style
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group