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a japanese tony fighter & a pete float plane......... i even sent my wish to both santa & hannukah harry too!!!



Tom, I believe a Pete was recovered from that big Solomon Islands recovery from earlier this year. I haven't heard where it went, though.


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How about all the crates of new aircraft dumped off Australia. :wink:

They've been checked. Fzzzzzzzz.
weren't they brand new P-40s in those crates off austrila ?


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How about all the crates of new aircraft dumped off Australia. :wink:

They've been checked. Fzzzzzzzz.
weren't they brand new P-40s in those crates off austrila ?

IIRC, bits of naval fighters - F4Us, Hellcats(?) were recovered, and they're junk. Not from crates though. Maybe if there was enough silica gell in the crate too. :D

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Yamamotos BETTY????? It's on land laying in the jungle

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Yamamotos BETTY????? It's on land laying in the jungle



You have GOT to be $-hit ting me :twisted: The Imperial NASM or the Imperial Navy Museum hasn't picked this up!!! a most significant piece of warfare history rotting in the jungle....imagine that

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There was not a whole lot left of Yamamoto's Betty, much o fit burned. The tail and wings remain, though I thought I heard that one of the wings had been recovered?

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Hello,

One of the wings and the seat (Admiral Yamamoto sat in) from his Betty bomber are on display in Japan. See here:

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/g4m/2656.html

Sadly, in general, very few WW II aircraft are on display. Due to the hard work and funds of Japanese collector Nobuo Harada several Zero fighters were restored. Unfortunately, he would LOVE to restore a "Betty" but had very little success getting permission to recover one from the Pacific.

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One of the wings and the seat (Admiral Yamamoto sat in) from his Betty bomber are on display in Japan. See here:

http://www.pacificwrecks.com/aircraft/g4m/2656.html

Sadly, in general, very few WW II aircraft are on display. Due to the hard work and funds of Japanese collector Nobuo Harada several Zero fighters were restored. Unfortunately, he would LOVE to restore a "Betty" but had very little success getting permission to recover one from the Pacific.

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Hi Ron,

How much Betty has Harada-san already recovered? I've seen pics of the restored fuselage section, but does he also have cockpit? wings? empennage?

Happy Holidays to you and Kaori! :wink:

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Dan,

Harada-san just has the tail gunner (last section) of a Betty bomber - nothing else. I think he even consider "building" the rest of the bomber using plans!

Happy Holidays to you and Kell Gang!

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How about a Brewster Buffalo? There's gotta be one out there somewhere, maybe in Southeast Asia?

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How did "Lady Be Good" make it to the Pacific? She wrecked in Libya! lol..

Many years ago, I knew a guy who had been on the oil team which found her... At this point, I can't remember which of the hundreds of friends I've made over the years it was! I have it narrowed down to a half a dozen people I haven't seen in 20 years...

But it was fun to hear him talk about her!

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How about all the crates of new aircraft dumped off Australia. :wink:

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There was a thread about that here on WIX some years back. I don't have the link, you can probably search for it. The basic jist was that at least one recovery was accomplished, but they were found to be in EXTREMELY poor condition. On one of the aircraft they found (Corsair?), the aluminum was in such bad shape, it was as pliable as wet, soggy cardboard. I think most people have given up on the idea of recovering from that location, as the aircraft are most likely all junk now, probably not even good for patterns.


I was thinking of a technique that is used for artifacts that were immeresed in salt water. Think that they did this with the CSS Hunley. After recovery they kept it wet, and then upon arriving at the preservation facility, it was placed in a salt water tank. The salt water was equal portions to the ambient NaClH2O, then the salt content was gradualy lowered to where it was pure water. Wondering if this might work for these australian a/c as well.

They're not in the Pacific, but there are a few P-47s here off the coast of Jersey (Im building an ROV to look for these) and 5 TBM Avengers about 12 miles off the coast of Ft. Lauderdale. These would be nice.


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Ive also been sending the Saudi consulate in NYC letters requesting salvage rights for a PBY that's on the red sea. No reply yet, sure they're busy with other things :wink: but any one have advice on how to deal with these arab reps?


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PbyCat-Guy wrote:
I was thinking of a technique that is used for artifacts that were immeresed in salt water. Think that they did this with the CSS Hunley. After recovery they kept it wet, and then upon arriving at the preservation facility, it was placed in a salt water tank. The salt water was equal portions to the ambient NaClH2O, then the salt content was gradualy lowered to where it was pure water. Wondering if this might work for these australian a/c as well.

I thought the Hunley was still under water, and would be for many years to come to get the salt out of the metal.


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Yamamotos BETTY????? It's on land laying in the jungle



You have GOT to be $-hit ting me :twisted: The Imperial NASM or the Imperial Navy Museum hasn't picked this up!!! a most significant piece of warfare history rotting in the jungle....imagine that


I'm pretty sure his (The Inspector) dad had something to do with Yamamoto's Betty getting shot down!?!

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