Stoney's Catch-22 Adventure-New update Saturday12-6-2008

[gary1954]

Brig. Gen. Dreedle's Executive B-25 was N10V, I believe that she was the only one in the group that had an AirStair Door.

[sgt hawk]

Absolutely fascinating thread! Read Heller's book in the 60's and used some quotations from it for a Philosophy course on Existentialism in college, got an "A" on the paper. The 25 was always a favorite of mine (I had read Ted Lawson's book "Thirty seconds over Tokyo" in the late 50's). Always wanted to own a B or C with the aft turret and dress it up like "The ruptured Duck". One of the great things about WIX is getting stories of folks who actually participated. My Movie experience lasted three days in February of 67 at Fort Benning. I was a dead North Vietnamese in the "Green Berets". Never have watced it and could care less.

[gary1954]

Absolutely fascinating thread! Read Heller's book in the 60's and used some quotations from it for a Philosophy course on Existentialism in college, got an "A" on the paper. The 25 was always a favorite of mine (I had read Ted Lawson's book "Thirty seconds over Tokyo" in the late 50's). Always wanted to own a B or C with the aft turret and dress it up like "The ruptured Duck". One of the great things about WIX is getting stories of folks who actually participated. My Movie experience lasted three days in February of 67 at Fort Benning. I was a dead North Vietnamese in the "Green Berets". Never have watced it and could care less.

I'm not a Doctor, but I did play one on TV (in a televison commercial for a local hospital)

[mustangdriver]

If it is cool with stoney, I was going to try and do a little work on the pictures to try and clean them up, and then try to make other look even more like WWII pics(even thought that is not hard). Is that O.K.?

[gary1954]

I am certain they would look great cleaned up, however (but) I find them cool with the junk on them, but then hey...that's just me

[mustangdriver]

Oh I know they are cool as heck as is, I was just going to give it a shot I will show you what I come up with.

[Jack Cook]

More pictures tonight!

[Coert Munk]

Surprise us!

[TonyM]

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the Late Great Frank Tallman told me that the cross winds at location were very bad, and d a m n e d near dangerous

Evidence of that cross wind condition can be seen in the massive take-off scene (the part where the airplanes are taking off toward the camera). One B-25 can be seen in a severe yaw condition just after lift off. Probably a good amount of propeller turbulence/disturbed air there too.

I was quoted in the Chicago Tribune last year regarding Heller's great work Catch 22.

TonyM.

TonyM.

[gary1954]

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I guess this would be N10V as it still has curtains in the windows...





T J

I Strongly believe you to be correct in that this is 10V, also note the paint still visible on the tires.

[Jack Cook]

Stoney, mech & Stu Kunkee

[Stoney]

The pix of Passinate Paulette with the two mechs is after it was painted as with a M&M scheme then re-painted

[Jerry O'Neill]

Thanks Stoney!

That's the kind of info I find very interesting.
As someone in the video production business, I found it interesting that they spent time and money re-painting the aircraft twice during the filming.

I have always assumed they shot all the M&M planes after they finished with the combat aircraft scenes. I thought this because many of the aircraft that came back to Tallmantz were still in the M&M paint.

It would've made financial and shooting planning sense to only paint them once, but I'm sure there was a reason for it, which I would love to know.

And BTW Stoney, thanks so much for taking the time with a bunch of "Airplane Film Geeks" like me!
Blue skies,
Jerry

[T J Johansen]

Stoney, mech & Stu Kunkee

Are these of the same a/c?

T J

[Jerry O'Neill]

"Paulette" doesn't seem to have the same "tan" camo paint as the other and unless they repainted the prop dome, I think they're different aircraft.

Jerry