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Jack as always excellent pic.

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Tom,
These pages from an A-20G manual show the recommended bale out procedures.Early G models still had the flexible gun mount while later blocks had a Martin turret

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i don't think my question is understood. the top hatch of the a-20 swings up on hinges. a gorilla couldn't open it in the slip stream in a bail out. is the hatch jettisonable?? otherwise how did a pilot bail out??

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i don't think my question is understood. the top hatch of the a-20 swings up on hinges. a gorilla couldn't open it in the slip stream in a bail out. is the hatch jettisonable?? otherwise how did a pilot bail out??

Hi Tom,
It is answered in Larry's diagrams - when you pull the emergency release, the hatch is released on the hinge side as well, and then it adds 'the airstream carry it away'.
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tom d. friedman wrote:
i don't think my question is understood. the top hatch of the a-20 swings up on hinges. a gorilla couldn't open it in the slip stream in a bail out. is the hatch jettisonable?? otherwise how did a pilot bail out??

Hi Tom,
It is answered in Larry's diagrams - when you pull the emergency release, the hatch is released on the hinge side as well, and then it adds 'the airstream carry it away'.
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Like the ME262 canopy. Any news on recent A20 recovery?

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I've always thought the A-20 was an interesting subject. I know they're a rare bird these days. How many potential flyers are out there? (realistically). Are there still any in "flying condition"? I recall seeing one many years ago, but it's been a lo-o-o-ong time.

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If I recall on the former LSFM Havoc, there was a door that went to the bombay from the cockpit. The LSFM havoc had a second seat installed behind the pilot. The door was behind that seat. This second seat did not exist during the war years.

And cockpit door was very heavy!

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Hello Triangle "P"

In your note of Wednesday, Nov 19 you commented that you would like to see a photo of an A-20 and a B-25 next to one another for comparitive purposes. Well, here it is! I took this photo in early 1988 at Fox Airfield in Lancaster California which is located a few miles west of Edwards AFB. If I am not mistaken the A-20 ...and possibly the B-25 may have come from the Howard Hughes Estate. I do not know if they both remain there or not as the photo was taken 20 years ago.
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Hello Triangle P:

Thanks so much for your return note. I am glad to see that both aircaft remain in the desert to keep the corrosion in check. While living in So. Calif I would occasonally drive by the west end of the former Hughes airport and view both the A-20 and B-25 parked there forlorn and forgotten ... mile or so from the ocean and its corrosive salt air. They both sat there for 25-30 years or so. The A-20G is for sure a Santa Monica built airplane and the B-25C is most likely an Inglewood product given the fact that it is an early model. Yes, I agree that it would be great to see an A-20 airborne again but I understand that tires are the big problem. Apparenlty they are a unique size and the mould is long gone.

If you are still having problems loading photos (as I did!) contact me and I'll lead you thru it. vossj@comcast.net The directions on photobucket are poor and need improvement. In reality it is too simple....


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