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Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:19 am

Is there any way, that a "Recovered/Restored" bulletin board can be made here, that we could have access to and post what has been recovered with a loss date, recovery date, restoration completion date and location?

Re: Warbirds recovered/restored/preserved by "Wreck Cha

Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:19 am

RyanShort1 wrote:More to come up with a list of examples that could be given to someone like A2C's friend.

Fair enough.

I'm still waiting for anything to indicate A2Cs friend is likely to be given any responsibility for anything by anybody.

A2Cs friend's certainly got a lot of reaction from someone who could just be blowing smoke.

Regards,

Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:22 am

gary1954 wrote:Is there any way, that a "Recovered/Restored" bulletin board can be made here, that we could have access to and post what has been recovered with a loss date, recovery date, restoration completion date and location?


Personally, I think it's a great idea and a good way to show the positive side of the hobby.

Ryan

Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:30 pm

Yanks OS2U was recovered from a Florida crash site by J. Wisler as I recall.

For years I've been trying to find out what part of Florida and I would still like to know.

Anyone?

:)

Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:35 pm

PinecastleAAF wrote:Yanks OS2U was recovered from a Florida crash site by J. Wisler as I recall.

For years I've been trying to find out what part of Florida and I would still like to know.

Anyone?

:)


Unless he has two OS2U's, I believe YANK's came from Alaska via many years in the possesion of the New England Air Museum.
We had that airframe for a long time along with a float chopped into 4-5 foot sections.
I hope that restore it someday!
Jerry

Re: Pearsonally

Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:37 pm

Rossco wrote:Don,t really care who rescues them as long as someone "does"...Rotting away on site isn,t doing much for anyone..You can fight it out after it has been recovered.Then there is this option...
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=3hQC3nkftrk


I couldn't agree with you more.

Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:09 pm

Survivors
At least nine Kingfishers seem to be still around in museums all over the world [1]. There is one at the National Naval Aviation Museum at Pensacola, Florida (obtained in 1971 from the Uruguayan Navy)[2][3]

Two Kingfishers are to be found on battleships: One on the battleship Alabama in Mobile, Alabama [4] and one onboard the battleship North Carolina. With the assistance of an RCAF Piaseki helicopter, Lynn Garrison salvaged this Kingfisher from Calvert Island, off British Columbia during the winter of 1963. It crashed there on a ferry flight to Alaska during World War Two. Garrison then donated it to the North Carolina Battleship Commission. It was restored for display by volunteers at Vought Aeronautics in Grand Prairie, Texas. Another Kingfisher on display is to be seen at the National Air and Space Museum outside of Washington DC. [5]

At the Yanks Air Museum at Chino, California there is a Kingfisher waiting 'to be restored', and one at Palm Springs Air Museum north of Palm Springs International Airport has recently been brought back to a nice state[6] as needs to be done with one at Whale World, Albany, Western Australia[7]. In the Museo Nacional Aeronáutico y del Espacio de Chile, Santiago there is a restored Kingfisher[8], as is one at Museum of the Revolution (Museo de la Revolución), Havana, Cuba. The latter is equipped with a 'fixed gear'. It has since been relocated to the Museo del Aire in Havana [9]



I think the one you are thinking of is the North Carolina aircraft.

Tue Nov 18, 2008 5:59 pm

I believe that LSFM's Hurricane fits into this category.

Steve S

Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:16 pm

the b-25 -c with the rare underside gun turret. from lake murray north carolina dubbed lady of the lakes. i assisted in the official appraisal of that recovery. i'm flabbergasted nobody mentioned the finnish brewster buffalo recovered from a lake. model 239 or something??

Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:10 pm

the Palm Springs Kingfisher is now at the NASM at Dulles, It was on loan to the Palm Springs musuem

Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:54 am

warbird1 wrote:
Tulio wrote:


I take it, that it is a formerly forgotten example from South of the border?


No, AFAIK it is not.

Saludos,


Tulio

Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:49 am

tom d. friedman wrote:the b-25 -c with the rare underside gun turret. from lake murray north carolina dubbed lady of the lakes. i assisted in the official appraisal of that recovery. i'm flabbergasted nobody mentioned the finnish brewster buffalo recovered from a lake. model 239 or something??




Tom,

Ryan has it in his second list which is in the 5th post at the start of this thread. Thats one of the best examples saved!

Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:14 am

i didn't see the recent recovery of the heinkel he -115 sea plane raised from a fjord mentioned, unless i missed it.

Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:34 am

PinecastleAAF wrote:
Survivors
At least nine Kingfishers seem to be still around in museums all over the world [1]. There is one at the National Naval Aviation Museum at Pensacola, Florida (obtained in 1971 from the Uruguayan Navy)[2][3]

Two Kingfishers are to be found on battleships: One on the battleship Alabama in Mobile, Alabama [4] and one onboard the battleship North Carolina. With the assistance of an RCAF Piaseki helicopter, Lynn Garrison salvaged this Kingfisher from Calvert Island, off British Columbia during the winter of 1963. It crashed there on a ferry flight to Alaska during World War Two. Garrison then donated it to the North Carolina Battleship Commission. It was restored for display by volunteers at Vought Aeronautics in Grand Prairie, Texas. Another Kingfisher on display is to be seen at the National Air and Space Museum outside of Washington DC. [5]

At the Yanks Air Museum at Chino, California there is a Kingfisher waiting 'to be restored', and one at Palm Springs Air Museum north of Palm Springs International Airport has recently been brought back to a nice state[6] as needs to be done with one at Whale World, Albany, Western Australia[7]. In the Museo Nacional Aeronáutico y del Espacio de Chile, Santiago there is a restored Kingfisher[8], as is one at Museum of the Revolution (Museo de la Revolución), Havana, Cuba. The latter is equipped with a 'fixed gear'. It has since been relocated to the Museo del Aire in Havana [9]



I think the one you are thinking of is the North Carolina aircraft.


I was a curator at NEAM back in the 80's and early 90's, and I know Nichols was collecting Kingfisher parts and may have parts of several since he was trying for several years to get ours. I know the ex-NEAM example was recovered from Alaska back in the 1970's AFTER the North Carolina OS2U had been restored.

NEAM basically had a banged up, stripped out, fuselage and the cut-up main float. Some parts were used, or going to be used when NASM restored their OS2U, and then it was acquired by Nichols in the 1990's.
I have seen pics on the web of it since it was in California, so I know that fuselage is somewhere out there. If I get a chance, I'll try to dig out the BuNo. from my curator records, but it might be a while, since they're packed away in the basement.
Jerry

Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:44 pm

I was a curator at NEAM back in the 80's and early 90's, and I know Nichols was collecting Kingfisher parts and may have parts of several since he was trying for several years to get ours. I know the ex-NEAM example was recovered from Alaska back in the 1970's AFTER the North Carolina OS2U had been restored.

NEAM basically had a banged up, stripped out, fuselage and the cut-up main float. Some parts were used, or going to be used when NASM restored their OS2U, and then it was acquired by Nichols in the 1990's.


Neat info, I stand corrected! Glad to know there is another one out there. I think the one from Florida was a fixed gear version without the floats but not sure either. As rare as they are I hope the Yanks unit gets restored some day.
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