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Thanks Edward for the clarification and updates to the museum. And welcome to the board :D Someday I will head up there and to Liberal. Kinda make a round robin trip.


Your welcome, Steve. I have been lurking here wayyyy too long. 8)

A link to the Kansas Aviation Museum website....

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steve dickey wrote:
Thanks Edward for the clarification and updates to the museum. And welcome to the board :D Someday I will head up there and to Liberal. Kinda make a round robin trip.


Your welcome, Steve. I have been lurking here wayyyy too long. 8)

A link to the Kansas Aviation Museum website....

http://www.kansasaviationmuseum.org/museum.php



Thanx for the link, took a quick peek, come back to it later. You guys have some "rare" airplanes :o . I'm a "BIG" fan of Mites and noticed on a couple of the A/C descriptions that are "kept flyable" does anything in the museum get out or is it just maintained to a standard for easy upkeep?
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At least they saveed that B-47 :!: :!: I bet it could be put back together like a model, just slide some beams in the fuselage, secure them and slide the wings on and secure them from the outside. More than likely that is what will be done if they wanna put the wings back on :shock:


The B-47 team will begin reassembly of the airframe next year. The reason the wings were cut is because if they are unbolted they are nearly impossible to reinstall. This was discovered when the airframes were still young and going through planned depot maintenance. Trying to reinstall the wings involves alignment of the milk bottle fittings; which is pretty much giving the whole airframe a chiropractic adjustment to get them to go in. It takes extensive tooling to be able to do it. So far the team has sourced a set of landing gear, wheels, and tires (all missing). Engineers have worked out the details on the wing splice plates. Cutting the wings and splicing them back together has been done to other B-47 static displays for the same reasons. There exists another B-47 out of our state that has had the wings removed at the fittings and now cannot be reassembled. Last I heard it will be scrapped by the Air Force.

Like it was already said, I am glad to see this saved. It was less than a month away from being turned into beer cans before the museum found out and put together an emergency response team to handle the disassembly, funding, logistics, and move to the Kansas Air Museum.

The airframe is gutted and could never be made flyable anyway. It is missing all of the systems, fuel cells, engines, and wiring. The Air Force really stripped it before they put it up on the pole.

I am excited to see this added to the museum collection to replace the one that was mounted on a pole on Highway 54 (West Wichita) but was moved to be a gate guard at McConnell AFB..

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What B-47 is going to be scrapped the only one taken by the Air Force Musuem is 53-4299 which they have on display with the wings attached, it is the one that came out of Salina. So, is there a second B-47 the they took back?


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If I recall correctly, the B-47 is at an AFB in the Dakotas. Not sure on that one. It was never in Kansas (except for probably being manufactured here). They took the wings off, and can't get them back on.

Of course there is another junk airframe at Edwards AFB....

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it would be nice if you could got whats left for parts. If you they what to get rid of the Jet Mentor I can have a truck there quick. :lol:


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Welcome to posting on WIX, Edward. I saw great potential at the Museum last week, and look forward to the progress as it continues to unfold. Keep up the good work, and posting updates, especially with photos, would be appreciated.

I'm going to post a few photos of the restoration area and civilian aircraft over on the Vintage Aviation forum later.

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Great pics, thanks for posting!

As long as we're on the subject of B-47s, does anyone know if there are any plans for the Stratojet formerly on display at NMUSAF? I was there last weekend, and it was still parked outside the restoration hangars..where it's been for several years now.

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Welcome to posting on WIX, Edward. I saw great potential at the Museum last week, and look forward to the progress as it continues to unfold. Keep up the good work, and posting updates, especially with photos, would be appreciated.

I'm going to post a few photos of the restoration area and civilian aircraft over on the Vintage Aviation forum later.

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Scott,

I am not sure how to post photos here, I looked at the faq but did not see much. I then ran a search on "how to post a photo", and got a million replies that weren't directly related. I could upload if I knew how, but don't have image hosting of my own.

Steve Dickey,

I am afraid I do not know much about the Mites. We have a fly in once a year where people gather with their historic smaller a/c. Also once a year McConnel has their open house with some of the circuit warbirds. To the best of my knowledge, the museum a/c are all static.[/img]


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Most of us use Photobucket, and if I can use it anyone can! :shock: It takes a little while to get used to it, but the system works well once you master it.

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Now that the word has gotten out about Doc being moved to indoor storage, I can post this photo of the Jet Mentor. I held off posting this picture because the B-29 should have been right behind the little Beech.
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Doc is presently in a hangar/storage building in the McConnell security area. It's inside and out of the weather, but there isn't any access for the public to view it. It's a temporary arrangement from the little I know, but thanks to whoever provided the protection for the airplane. The announcement is in the wikipedia entry for Doc, so I suppose it's alright to speak about it now.

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The Mentor's paint was being stripped for repainting. That is why it looks the way it does. I am sure the KAM folks will get it indoors when it is feasible. Please donate to your local museums. Donations buy buildings.


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Great to hear Doc is now inside!

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Doc is presently in a hangar/storage building in the McConnell security area. It's inside and out of the weather, but there isn't any access for the public to view it. It's a temporary arrangement from the little I know, but thanks to whoever provided the protection for the airplane. The announcement is in the wikipedia entry for Doc, so I suppose it's alright to speak about it now.

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And this was kept quiet because...?

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Because..."You have to be werry quiet when hunting Wabbits" says Elmer Fudd!

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