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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:59 pm 
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I don't remember if anyone has posted this before, but I just discovered this AWESOME website about warbird wrecks in Norway. Some of it is just jawdropping to think what still awaits recovery on the arctic tundras. There is a LOT still out there! The website has pictures of every wreck, as well as it's location - a veritable treasure trove!

http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/index.html


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wow! what an impressive site, ALOT of time and effort must have gone into it. You could spend hours looking through all that, guess i know what I'm doing tomorrow :D


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I think it is pretty special that someone has taken the time to research each of these wreck sites and provide a memorial to the men lost at most of them.
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Yeah, great site and research there.
Lots of bushwalking too


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They update their website often, lot of new wrecks every month. I wisit their site once a week, have been doing that for a long time. Allways great when an update is out. But allways far from my home :oops:

The only wrecks they dont go looking for are those that crashed inn lakes, fjords and the sea. Their are a lot of them here in Norway, and some are in very good condition.


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Planebeach wrote:
They update their website often, lot of new wrecks every month. I wisit their site once a week, have been doing that for a long time. Allways great when an update is out. But allways far from my home :oops:

The only wrecks they dont go looking for are those that crashed inn lakes, fjords and the sea. Their are a lot of them here in Norway, and some are in very good condition.


Since you're in Norway, perhaps you can answer this question. How hard would it be for an outsider (foreigner), not from Norway, to get salvage rights to any of those W.W. II wrecks? Is it even possible, or would it be a futile effort?

I'm thinking a Paul Allen, or Rod Lewis type, with unlimited resources could add quite a bit of extremely rare or extinct types to their collections from some of those freshwater sources. Am I dreaming or is this a realistic proposal?


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Am I dreaming or is this a realistic proposal?


I certanitlly hope not! Ive been hoping and dreaming of what may be found in Norway for years now! Heres to always searching for that next big discovery/ recovery/ restoration to FLIGHT. :wink: 8)

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The Norwegians are willing to trade ( witness the group of Ju52s and also the recent He111) either for aircraft they need or for funding to recover said aircraft, although this has normally been with National museums, not private individuals (I only know of one exception, but this was for a partial aiframe only)

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How cool would it be to have a flying Ju-88 or IL-2!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, I'm excited....breathe... :D

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Well over the last 10 years there have been a number of recoveries. Some Ju-88s and He-111, some of them have been recovered for museums abroad. One Fw-200 Condor went to Germany.

But many of the aircraft that you can see on the wreck site will never be recovered, due to they are war graves. But some will hopefulle be recovered, but its very expensive to do here in Norway.


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There are a LOT of Ju 88s and He111s in that directory. it would be very cool to see some of those restored, I have yet to see an He111 up close.


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Is it Cavanaugh that has the CAF's old Spanish built 111? What is going on with that one?

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mtpopejoy wrote:
Is it Cavanaugh that has the CAF's old Spanish built 111? What is going on with that one?


Nope, Cavanaugh's is a different airframe. The CAF's crashed a few years ago, unfortunately with all onboard perishing.


The answer to your question about the Cavanaugh airframe is here:

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/p ... sa&start=0


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BattleRabbit wrote:
There are a LOT of Ju 88s and He111s in that directory. it would be very cool to see some of those restored, I have yet to see an He111 up close.


Yeah, but have a look at the entries, most are just hard pieces like undercarriage and engines. The Norwegian museums aren't silly, they know what is worth recovering and what isn't.
eg. the Ju88 and Heinkel from the lake/fjord a year or 2 back


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Good friend of mine works for the Norwegian Air Force Museum. And Im lucky enough to get (junk) pieces from some of these aircraft. Like the 110 that was found in a fjord with both crewmen still with the a/c.


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