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Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:55 pm

Hey, you're dream is real. Only it's a B-29, slightly damaged and it's at the bottom of Lake Meade. For some insane reason, the National Park Service is preserving it as a dive site and won't allow it to be recovered :? .

Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:12 pm

perhaps, before racing off to Anguar some effort could be made to restore those already in captivity but in desperate need of some attention before they rot into the ground?



http://www.warbirdregistry.org/b24registry/lb30-al557.html

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Mark Pilkington

Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:50 pm

My good friend and neighbor Marty Huvar was stationed at Barksdale when 44-48781 was delivered. It was indeed slung under a CH-54 helo by means of taking an axe to the wing skins and running the lift straps around the wing spars.
There was one paragraph on it with one photo in the Liberator feature in Warbird Digest last year, #15. That was the one with Gary in 'Ol 927 on the cover and a nose art sidebar story by Django.
Doug

Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:59 pm

In Leesburg, Virginia, as recently as 10 or 12 years ago there was a hot dog stand made from a section of B-24 fuselage. Several years ago I was there and it was gone.

Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:09 am

mustangdriver wrote:I would rather see the Yankee Air Museum get it. Nothing against the NASM, just that the whole reason that the YAM started was to get a B-24.


So what's stopping someone from making that happen? Considering the care that Yankee Lady gets, can anyone think of a better home for a Ford built B24 definately in need of care?

It would seem to me the USAFM folks would score nothing but points in helping to make that happen. Letting it rot outdoors like it is, seems a terrible waste.

I have to believe the Yankee Air Museum folks would be willing :)

Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:26 am

Is there anyone at Yankee that would be willing to contact the NMUSAF? Now they may not be allowed to fly it, but I think the folks at Yankee would be happy to have a Ford built B-24 in the collection.

Sun Oct 05, 2008 3:15 pm

Scott - I've heard about those two Forts outside of Oklahoma City. Another Fort was pulled from the vast storage yard at Altus and towed out to the country by some farmers, apparently for all the small parts that could be used on farm equipment. Wonder where that airframe is now?

Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:12 pm

I seriously doubt that the NMUSAF will let that plane go to any place other than another base associated museum or (maybe) the NASM under special circumstances like a trade. Just my opinion...

Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:23 pm

I just was thinking that it may not hurt to try.

Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:52 pm

mustangdriver wrote:I just was thinking that it may not hurt to try.


Absolutely! The worst they can say is no. That plane certainly deserves better than to sit outside with it's engines exposed cowling-less. Look what Duxford was able to do with the Lackland B-24...

Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:57 pm

They way I see it, is that there are only two Ford built Liberators left, no? I hope that the YAF gets a chance to acquire one of these two aircraft to fly. Somehow in my head i see it as one of the greatest conclusions for one amazing museum! I mean, since this has been one of there biggest goals since the formation of museum. If they were to restore there severely ground bound Privateer into a presentable and an authentic looking B-24D/J and donate it one of the two museums, whose to say they cant receive 'there' true Liberator? Id hope for the 'powers at be' to just work in favor for us Warbird guys near and far, and especially on this one!
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:12 pm

APG85 wrote:
mustangdriver wrote:I just was thinking that it may not hurt to try.


Absolutely! The worst they can say is no.


*Cough* F-82 *cough*

Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:17 pm

That would only take place if the Yankee Air Museum would then try to sell the B-24.

Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:53 am

Gary-

Scott's right about the B-24 parts in Stillwater. Kinda neat pieces, but nothing too substantial. The B-17's I've heard some stories about, mostly what Scott has said. Oklahoma is a big place, with a lot of big barns and rusty memories. Is it possible that there's some substantial piece sitting out there somewhere? Yes. Is it probable? No. But we can dream.

Below are the photos of the B-24 before its move from Tulsa. Should put any doubts to rest. I've got more photos somewhere, but this should do for now. A couple of news articles to go with the photos. Also, a note that explains that it was a C-118 that Sullenger traded for.

And thanks for the photos of the Corsairs! Now just need some of those B-24s...

And Mark, I agree- it would be great to go take care of that LB-30 if possible, but from what I've seen of its current condition (it's been moved into a storage yard, out of that field) it's basically just a pile of parts. Could be done with the right motivation, probably, but then we'd just have another lousy LB-30, wouldn't we? :)

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Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:08 am

Notice that in Kevin's first photo of the Lib that the gun butt is in the background? 8)

Scott
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