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Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:46 pm
Haven't heard much lately about the new FW190's flying yet. I'm wondering if down the road we may see several of these new FW190's in the air and at airshows. Anyone have an idea of the pricetag on a new one? I also wonder just how fast and manuverable these new FW's are.
Just a few questions.
Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:27 pm
Check the thread on the Tri-State Warbird Museum. There's some info about their Flug Werk 190 there.
A freind of mine talked to somebody at Stallion 51, which has one of the Flug Werk Allison-engine Doras. I don't think they've flown it yet..the guy who works there said they were less-than-impressed with the workmanship.
Like you, I hope to see a 190 in the skies myself (I just finally got to see a 109 fly for the first time a couple of years ago.) Hey, there's a great theme for "Thunder Over Michigan" next year...a gathering of all flying Luftwaffe birds in the States. Heck, expand it to Axis planes in general. That way, maybe we could get the Tora gang and a couple of "real" Zeroes.
SN
Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:42 pm
The answer is there are a number now very close to flying, including the Fighter factory example in Germany. In a year or so I think there will be a fairly healthy population but dispersed across the world.
Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:05 pm
Steve Nelson wrote:A friend of mine talked to somebody at Stallion 51, which has one of the Flug Werk Allison-engine Doras. I don't think they've flown it yet..the guy who works there said they were less-than-impressed with the worksmanship
I heard something similar. What does this all mean? Would we might think that Flug Werk is pumping out cheap "knock-off' FW190's? Kind of like fake rolex watches you can purchase in Bali? .... Why do I know this? I purchased a fake rolex in Bali that only worked until I was a few blocks away and then fell apart ... lolol ....
Again, anyone have a clue as to how much one of these FW190's cost? I guess I could contact Flug Werk and ask.
Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:22 pm
Hey, my fake 'Rolecks' watch worked great for 6 months....till the hour hand fell off....
M
Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:32 pm
Steve Nelson wrote:the guy who works there said they were less-than-impressed with the workmanship.
I would seriously doubt that!
Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:41 pm
where are the moderators ? someone is claiming a company has done poor workmanship and the thread is still open, what is going on here ?
On the other hand, I would like to know what sort of problems they are finding.
Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:48 pm
Look for poor craftsmanship in these photos!
http://flugwerk.de/p51.shtm
Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:52 pm
Steve Nelson wrote:
the guy who works there said they were less-than-impressed with the workmanship.
I would seriously doubt that!
As I said, the info was third hand. I probably shouldn't have said anything. I apologize if anyone was offended.
SN
Sat Oct 04, 2008 10:04 pm
If you look under the diary section, and scroll down, there are some cockpit shots.
All of this is my speculation, but I would say the large yellow piece on the right side of the cockpit is the throttle, but where is the Mixture and RPM control? What sort of engine/prop combos are we talking here?
I'm seeing the MP and Tach on the right side of the cockpit, but where do I control the RPM?
Trey
Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:35 pm
Trey Carroll wrote:If you look under the diary section, and scroll down, there are some cockpit shots.
All of this is my speculation, but I would say the large yellow piece on the right side of the cockpit is the throttle, but where is the Mixture and RPM control? What sort of engine/prop combos are we talking here?
I'm seeing the MP and Tach on the right side of the cockpit, but where do I control the RPM?
Trey
I believe on the FW-190, there is only a throttle, everything else was controlled automatically.
Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:04 am
It is rather fascinating that the throttle lever, all-in-one, within a 190 also controlled, automatically, the fuel flow, mixture strength, propeller pitch, and ignition timing. There was a switch at the end of the throttle which allowed the pilot to manually control the prop pitch as well, and from the single photo on Flug Werk's site, it appears that the same is true on their example.
Here is a look at the original throttle:
http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/fw19 ... ottle.html
Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:14 am
Matt Gunsch wrote:Trey Carroll wrote:If you look under the diary section, and scroll down, there are some cockpit shots.
All of this is my speculation, but I would say the large yellow piece on the right side of the cockpit is the throttle, but where is the Mixture and RPM control? What sort of engine/prop combos are we talking here?
I'm seeing the MP and Tach on the right side of the cockpit, but where do I control the RPM?
Trey
I believe on the FW-190, there is only a throttle, everything else was controlled automatically.
Yes, a hydro-electric engine control computer (kommandogerat.) It's also present on the long nose version.
Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:14 pm
Mark V wrote:The answer is there are a number now very close to flying, including the Fighter factory example in Germany. In a year or so I think there will be a fairly healthy population but dispersed across the world.
I believe that Jerry Yagen's "original" FW190 is nearling completion in Germany. I was told also that he has a hand in 4 "reproductions" in the US. Tom Blair of Florida has two FWs, a long nose and short nose. One is in Florida with the Allison (not flying yet) and the other I think is in Britain.
Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:34 pm
richkolasa wrote:Mark V wrote:The answer is there are a number now very close to flying, including the Fighter factory example in Germany. In a year or so I think there will be a fairly healthy population but dispersed across the world.
I believe that Jerry Yagen's "original" FW190 is nearling completion in Germany. I was told also that he has a hand in 4 "reproductions" in the US. Tom Blair of Florida has two FWs, a long nose and short nose. One is in Florida with the Allison (not flying yet) and the other I think is in Britain.
wow, never heard of this one before now; any more info on this example, like where it came from etc?
cheers
greg v.
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