Warbird Information Exchange

Does anyone know the steps you have to go through to import a jet these days with US homeland security? What are the challenges new owners face??? Is there some kind of guide book that makes sure you dont buy an aircraft that cannot be imported? I am assuming that one would have to have:

customs
ATF
Homeland Security
FAA
Department of State

has anyone gone through this pain recently?

How long does it take?

Is there a difference between jets and say a P-51?


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If the jet was originally US built, make sure that it was not sold as FMS, or foreign military sales, or technically it still belongs to the US Government, and they will thank you for returning their property as they confiscate it at the dock.

There are several A-37's that were sold to the Republic of Viet Nam, and were imported to Australia that are subject to these restrictions.

Also the Department of Agriculture may get involved it the aircraft is crafted in a wooden crate.

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Wow never thought of the shipping angle!!! Thanks for the tip. I guess wood cradle could carry bugs or something....

is there some site that lists everything you need to import in terms of paper work?

right now. IOW you can bring in foreign aircraft more easily than you can re-import American aircraft. Anything can be done but it helps if you have a picture of a government official smiling seductively at a sheep dressed in high heels and nylons.

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P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer.

S: Took hammer away from midget.

It would also help if the sheep was really ugly. No one wants to be seen with a real bow wow.

"honest officer...I was just trying to help the sheep get over the fence.."

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P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer.

S: Took hammer away from midget.

Talk to t33driver. He has had lots of recent experience.

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Maybe, but I've known guys where the entire flight crew was money in on who could be seen coming out their room in the morning with the absolute clock stopper!
"she was so ugly ,her folks tied a pork chop around her neck so the dog would play with her as a kid.....'

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You mean with jets, I hope...

I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that an ex-Vietnam A-37 was operational in the US which came via the Australian reclamation effort. No names no pack drill, happy to be corrected!

Sure, lots... Um, the jet entry price is lower, and they're both painful to run? Men will think you are cool if you operate a Mustang, while the girls go for the jets?

Sorry - slow afternoon...

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Vulture;

Have a search around under "WPM regulations", that should tell you all you need to know about shipping crates and stands. Basically any piece of wood used that is larger than 1/4 inch (so plywood and fibreboard are exempt) needs to be either already treated to kill bugs, or you can have your old crate sprayed. Expensive though. Compliant material has a logo painted on it.

It means that all of those lovely old antique USAAF and other ex-military boxes are just so much firewood now. We don't apply it into the UK as yet, but it will come.

As to the aircraft, it's just as difficult to get an Export License out of the USA. One vendor in Texas wouldn't even sell sixty year old brake parts to me...

Is there a difference between importing (or re-importing) a US manufactured jet to the States as opposed to importing a US designed jet that was built under licence in another country?

In the case of Paul's (t33driver) T-33, it was manufactured in Canada so are there different rules or does the Gov see the Canadair built T-33 as a foreign aircraft?

Brian.

but I have been wrong before, and there are caveats...like the pacific rim T-34's that were returned but couldn't get certified and were eventually made into coors cans I believe.

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P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding on something with a hammer.

S: Took hammer away from midget.

These guys should be able to help
http://www.classicjets.org/

Because Canadair T-33s were originally a US based design built with US technical assistance/data, the US government classifies them the same as if they were manufactured in the US, exported and re-imported.