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 Post subject: Museum DC-8's
PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:28 pm 
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Any DC-8's in a museum anywhere?

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There used to be one at the Los Angeles Aerospace Museum next to USC. Don't know if it is still there.

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Up until a few years ago, that pirate Del Smith had ship 1 collecting rattlesnakes @ Miranna-Thats an airplane that should be saved alongside the dash 80!

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There is one in Paris, France, at the Musee de l'Air et de l'Espace:
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.s ... entry=true

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And in Germany we have get a forward fuselage for our museum project. This is now locatet at the city Darmstadt, some miles south of Frankfurt. Information and pictures are available via the following pages:

The history of our DC-8 airframe, S/N 45300
http://august-euler-museum.de/ae-museum-03.html

The cockpit instrument panels are all from another DC-8, S/N 45429
http://august-euler-museum.de/ae-museum-08.html

Our first inspection in February 2006
http://august-euler-museum.de/ae-museum-07.html

Moving the fuselage from Frankfurt Airport to the new location
http://august-euler-museum.de/ae-museum-09.html

Arrival at the new location at Darmstadt-Griesheim
http://august-euler-museum.de/ae-museum-10.html

The restoration work begins
http://august-euler-museum.de/ae-museum-12.html

Moving onto the final base
http://august-euler-museum.de/ae-museum-13.html

The restoration get some help by a group of Lufthansa students
http://august-euler-museum.de/ae-verein-20.html

Removing the paint
http://august-euler-museum.de/ae-museum-18.html

Note also the videos provided by some of this pages.
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Manfred

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The Yankee Air Museum has a division at the old Wurtsmith AFB in Oscoda MI. They have an ex American International 50 series DC-8 on display.


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Took this DC-8-63F just a few weeks ago at the Thunder over Michigan show, hopefully these birds can keep flying as Cargo Haulers

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The Ex-Orbis eye surgery aircraft, a early ex-United Machine, is in a Museum in China.

The group left it there after its last mission since it was being replaced by a DC-10 (ex-FEDEX, IIRC).

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I have never seen one in a museum....probably still too much in use for them to be considered much of a museum piece. I hope they fy for a long time...but I hope they are not forgotten. My only flight in a DC-8 was a flight to England in 1980.

This one was on the UPS ramp at DFW...

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I have never seen one in a museum....probably still too much in use for them to be considered much of a museum piece. I hope they fy for a long time...but I hope they are not forgotten. My only flight in a DC-8 was a flight to England in 1980.

This one was on the UPS ramp at DFW...

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They are a darn fine beautiful airframe- I see them fly into PHL occasionally, graceful and refined as can be... Like watching a beautiful woman walking down the street...

Douglas Aircraft always knew how to make a sharp bird...

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Does anyone think that some passionate Douglas fan will ever gather one of each of the DC-types for preservation? I think a DC-2, DC-3, DC-4, DC-6, DC-7, DC-8, DC-9 and DC-10 all together at one location/museum would be outstanding. I would guess that if someone timed it right, some airlines/cargo carriers retiring fuel hogs would probably just donate some of those types just for the tax benefits, rather than scrapping them. It would just require some huge ramp space...

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Hard part would be to get a DC-2, but it would be a nice idea........

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I taught the DC-8 amongst other Long Beach cable cars a few years ago @ BADWRENCH, er....BF Big b!tch @ KPAE. You'd be hard pressed to find a tougher bird anywhere.
Many years ago Consolidated Freightways dispatched a -55F out of KPDX but the ground crew didn't get the MCD latched correctly (pretty tough, push in on one handle, but you don't hire bag busters because they have a Phd in psycology) and it popped open as the gear was coming up and flapped up and down in the airstream for about 35 minutes until the crew could land and taxi back to the ramp. A quick damage inspection was performed, none found, the door was cycled several times, latched and the aircraft was dispatched to it's original destination, far as I know it's still earning a living somewhere in the world-try that with a 727.

Heres an easy bar bet you can win-ask the next guy to name the three different types of certificated commercial airliners to be verified as going supersonic.
1) CONCORDE
2)Tu-144
3) Trans Canada DC-8-44 with Rolls Royce CONWAYS chased by a USAF F-104, it did go past 1.03
Not bad for an old round nosed elephant Huh?
You will never wear one out, about the only thing that will can an 8 is corrosion along longeron 24 it's very complex in shape and runs the length of the fuselage about 1/2 way down the lower cargo sidewalls on both sides, everything else is just very thick 7075-T6. In fact in the back of the MM in Chapter 91 is the list of control cables used and their lengths down to 1/32nd of an inch which you used to be able to order from McD, don't know in Boeing still honors that or not
Same story with the 10, tough bird thats hard to wear out. And, if engine technology was then what it is now, there quite possibly never would have been a 767. The original DC-10 proposal was a two decked, 550 seat, four high bypass powered intercontinental airliner, as was the proposed MD-12, but airport managers in the mid 60's freaked out at the prospect of several of them arriving at the same time and having to deal with the wave of bodies, and it could have been in service before the 47 got all it's teething problems ironed out.
The MoF has the last flyable DC-2 (not that they ever will again fly it) it restored in Long Beach, and now sits outside in Seattles wonderful rainy, salt laden atmosphere so it will be just like the DC-3 that sat outside the Museum for so many years, a corroded pile you can put your finger through.
In case it hasn't showed yet, I really do love the DC-8 and DC-10, they're as simple as a Pine Log, and once you understand one, you understand how they all work. :wink:

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OH yeah, MP,
For your entertainment, you should try and find a -61 or -62 ten tank F.E. panel, lots of levers and positions and crossfeed switches. Fuel was put aboard in the order it was to be burned off, constantly feeding to the outer wing mains to dampen wing oscillations. The boost (??) pumps @ a roaring 20 or so lbs/sq. in. would burn out from running 'dry' in a full tank if not primed first as the are a volute style, fuel boost pressure is provided by an engine mounted NASH (go ask you dad) pump that boosts pressure up to around 35 lb/sq. in.

The package nazi's 8's are a real study in contrast, the flight instrument panels are all CRT and 'geez' state of the art, and the poor FE is still chained to the cab of a Baldwin locomotive, lots and lots of levers, wheels, knobs, and stuff to constantly have to fiddle with. OH, and lets put this guy up against a huge heat sink surrounded by radios and electrical circuit breakers then lets let him also control the cabin temprature systems. On straight motors thats FREON and 4 turbo compressors under the flight deck floor (that turn around 24000 rpms). On a SUPER it's two ACM compressors/ heat exchangers from a 727 and no FREON.

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DC-8s were also certified for in-flight thrust reverse.


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