Django wrote:
It sounds like to me (as a company owner and one who has had to write want ads for our hot rod shop) that they have hired some people who looked good on paper but in reality didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground. We've had lots of kids come and go because basically... they were worthless, regardless of what their "dimploma" from various technical colleges conveyed.
Building hot rods or warbirds sounds like a dream job to me. You wouldn't know it by how these kids act about 60 days in...
I know what you’re talking about.
I see a fair number of kids getting into aviation maintenance today, that have no real interest or aptitude for it. Most went to a crappy school, got into serious debt, and got a nasty shock when they were offered $8-10/hr, instead of the “big bucks” they were promised. And then the constant whining commences. They seem to think raises are based solely on longevity instead of productivity.
Ask these kids to define their work ethic, and they don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
Some are less than worthless. My productivity goes down dramatically when I have to watch their every move so they don’t do something stupid. Any expectation of making a profit on the task quickly disappears. Even today, someone can get an A&P license and lack the mechanical aptitude to fix a toaster. I think some of the schools are so desperate, they will graduate guys who would normally spend a lifetime in minimum wage jobs.
I have a frequent argument with shop managers over these guys. I will quote 200 hrs for a major structural repair, and they think putting one of their kids with me, means they’ll only have to pay me for 100 hrs. In reality, having to constantly watch over the guy, and explain everything in great detail, can easily push the job to 300 hrs. And a drill or cut-off wheel in the hands of these idiots can quickly become a $10,000 mistake.
As far as this ad, I find it a bit strange. They appear to be assuming an applicant is in slightly better than a vegetative state, and they want to confirm he/she is a normally functioning human being. It suggests to me that they have previously hired “vegetables”, and are trying to avoid that mistake. This makes me wonder what kind of people they have working there now, and leads me to ignore them as a potential employer.
If they want to screen out the unqualified, all they need to include in their ad is a statement that applicant’s must pass a written test covering the knowledge required for the job. That will scare away all but the top guns in the field. A GA shop I know, ran an ad in the big aviation magazines for mechanics. 2300 resumes flooded in (the airlines had just laid off thousands). They started over by running the same ad, but with the testing requirement, and got less than 20 resumes. Actually, they didn’t even have a test, but the trick worked beautifully.
Maybe I’m just “old school”, but when I pursue a job with a shop, first, it’s usually a long phone conversation about their needs and my capabilities. I’m brutally honest, and I ask them very pointed questions too. Next is a FTF meeting, where they show me the shop, and I show them my previous accomplishments. I keep a large book detailing some of my more challenging repairs, loaded with photographs and after-action-reports of the problems encountered and my solutions to them. I also have photos of all the tools and equipment I can bring to a job. Money and other details are finalized, and the deal sealed with a handshake.
I’ve been burned once, by a shop owner who was a lying SOB. But GA aviation is small enough (and I’ve been around long enough, plus the internet) that I can usually dig up some background info on a person before pursuing a job.