Russian Stealth Bomber

Mick Grinter · **Posted:** Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:49 am

Hey guys i see on TV the Russians have been over flying the US in the new bombers undetected for Months.And the they are now parked somewhere in south america.A Mean looking thing i hope they bring one down here for the Avalon air show.Do you recon it's a copy of the Concors.

Obergrafeter · **Posted:** Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:43 am

Really nice pictures.

TAdan · **Posted:** Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:10 am

The TU-160's? I believe they have been around for quite a while now. (Since the 80's).

They are similar to the B-1 in appearance.

RyanShort1 · **Posted:** Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:11 am

Well, for starters, the Russians do not officially have stealth bombers yet. Since you mentioned South America, I suspect that you're referring to the TU-160 BLACKJACKs that recently landed in Venezuela. They WERE detected, and in fact followed by NATO fighters. Apparently some Russian vessels are also participating.
This is apparently part of the promised Russian response to the US treatment of the situation in Georgia.

Ryan

Randy Haskin · **Posted:** Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:11 am

Mick Grinter wrote:

Hey guys i see on TV the Russians have been over flying the US in the new bombers undetected for Months.And the they are now parked somewhere in south america.A Mean looking thing i hope they bring one down here for the Avalon air show.Do you recon it's a copy of the Concors.

Uhhhh, what?

There are Russian Tu-160s deployed in Venezuela. They're not "stealth" bombers. They have not been "flying in the US undetected for months".

Any references for your last two statements?

On another topic, Tu-95s have been flying their typical "Cold War" patrols out over international airspace, and being intercepted by US and NATO fighters.

The two things -- deployment of TU-160s and airspace prods by TU-95s -- are unrelated.

A violation of US soverign airspace by a bomber would be a BIG, BIG deal.

Aircraft Mech Paul · **Posted:** Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:30 am

Mick Grinter wrote:

Hey guys i see on TV the Russians have been over flying the US in the new bombers undetected for Months.And the they are now parked somewhere in south america.A Mean looking thing i hope they bring one down here for the Avalon air show.Do you recon it's a copy of the Concors.

Hi Guys,

I have hear that the Tu-95 Bears have been doing their old "Cold War" routes along the arctic route. And while the Russians don't have a "stealth fight or bomber" It is HIGHLY doubtful that they are doing undetected flights over US soil. It would seem to me that the second they were detected, they would have US fighter escort along their path for however long it was over US soil.

By the way the the Tu-160 Blackjack looks like a direct copy of a B-1 only a touch bigger.

Paul

famvburg · **Joined:** Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:41 am **Posts:** 540

It's not even close to a copy of the B-1, tho the layout is similar & more capable. And it's more than a 'touch' bigger. The Blackjack is about the size of a B-52, especially with wings swept forward.

Aircraft Mech Paul wrote:

Mick Grinter wrote:

Hey guys i see on TV the Russians have been over flying the US in the new bombers undetected for Months.And the they are now parked somewhere in south america.A Mean looking thing i hope they bring one down here for the Avalon air show.Do you recon it's a copy of the Concors.

Hi Guys,

I have hear that the Tu-95 Bears have been doing their old "Cold War" routes along the arctic route. And while the Russians don't have a "stealth fight or bomber" It is HIGHLY doubtful that they are doing undetected flights over US soil. It would seem to me that the second they were detected, they would have US fighter escort along their path for however long it was over US soil.

By the way the the Tu-160 Blackjack looks like a direct copy of a B-1 only a touch bigger.

Paul

dred · **Joined:** Sat May 05, 2007 11:26 pm **Posts:** 154

famvburg wrote:

It's not even close to a copy of the B-1...

Uh huh.

Robbie Roberts · **Posted:** Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:42 am

If they overfly the US without a flight plan and permission, they better get SHOT DOWN in the way the Russians would do to one of ours flying over without permission.

tulsaboy · **Posted:** Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:50 am

Randy-

I'd guess the person claiming that the Tu-160s had violated US airspace were referring to this: (granted, I'm making no judgment on the validity of the source)

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Russian_com ... undetected

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20060422/46792049.html

"Although the Tu-160 was designed for reduced detectability to both radar and infrared, it is not a stealth aircraft. Russian sources claim that it has a smaller radar cross section (RCS) than the B-1B.[citation needed] Nevertheless, on 25 April 2006 Commander Igor Khvorov claimed that Tu-160s had managed to penetrate North American airspace undetected, leading to a NATO investigation. [4] [5][6]"
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-160

As I said, I'm making no judgment on the validity of the source. Just suggesting where they might have arrived at the conclusion that such an incursion had taken place.

Still, the mere presence of the Tu-160 at a military base in our hemisphere doesn't say good things about the direction of our relationship with Russia.

kevin

Mgawa · **Posted:** Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:21 pm

As I know in Soviet Union was developed stealth cruise missile, not bombers. Few years ago they are succesfully tested active energy shield which resulted in stelth appearance and that was used on stndard fighter plane [much writtings was on my forum in Serbia where I am moderator].

kenlyco · **Joined:** Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:05 pm **Posts:** 656

Bluedharma · **Posted:** Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:18 pm

I am sure if anything from Russia came over or near the U.S. it would be met.
Much like these were.

USAF-F-15-fighter-jets-intercept-two-USSR-MiG-29-aircraft
http://digg.com/space/Stunning_2_F15s_Intercept_2_MiGs_in_Upper_Atmosphere

original thread. http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=182122&highlight=#182122

gale_dono · **Joined:** Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:32 pm **Posts:** 328

The similarity is pretty much universally agreed to be a coincedence, as a result of both aircraft being designed for the same role.

dred · **Joined:** Sat May 05, 2007 11:26 pm **Posts:** 154

Universally?

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