Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:59 pm
I don't know about that MD, Cheney was aiming at the lawyer he hit !! 
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Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:03 pm
got this the other day..............
This was passed to me by one of our MOAA members, Col. Russ Wiley, who is a straight shooter:
Charlie
From an old Air America buddy in Alaska - actually sent to someone else but Cc'ed to me.
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And from a Alaska man who is a very serious cynic about all things political here is my take on Sarah.
I met and spoke with Sarah Palin about two years ago at our downtown Park Strip. It is a place for walking, carnivals, political outdoor things and such. She was cooking hotdogs at a fund raiser and introducing herself to the public as a Governor hopeful.
She came by and said the usual "Hi, I'm Sarah Palin and I am running for Governor"...and I expected her to keep on to the next person but she asked me who I was and what I did in Alaska and we ended up talking for 15 minutes about me, Air America (she was all agog!) and my career in the Army and AAM. She is a pilot (Super Cub) I'm told although all she told me about that was that she loved flying.
As I watched her over the next six months as she successfully ran for Governor I was really impressed. I was impressed greatly even before that after she resigned a good position (Alaska Gas and Oil Regulatory Commission) because a fellow Commission member (Chair of the Alaska Republican Party) misused their office and position. He was using the FAX, computers, printing room and all to promote the Republican endeavors while in a State job. That is a huge no-no in any government employment position.
She resigned and made her point and within weeks Randy Ruderich (the above bad guy) found his ass out on the street and a subsequent investigation found him guilty and he was fined $12,000. Small change actually but a giant point was made.
Next she went after our most horrible Governor ever, Governor Murkowski, and damned if she didn't beat him! All of us here in Alaska, except the Democrats, are sick of our State's corruption. That fact was shouted to the heavens after she was elected with an overwhelming point spread.
After she got into office she started after corrupt legislators and with the FBI's help we've put four of them in prison, indicted six more and the "Corrupt Bastard's Club" as they arrogantly called themselves (even had hats made with CBC on the front!) suddenly found it no fun anymore. Club membership is now in the toilet!!
The current flap which has cost her a ten point loss of popularity (she's still 82%!) was over firing a popular Commissioner of Public Safety who is responsible for our Alaska State Troopers. She fired him for no STATED reason which was her prerogative as the Gov. He served entirely at her option. She and her whole family had a bad, bad experience with a rogue Trooper who was married to Sarah's sister. His name is Trooper Wooten. This dimwit Trooper had threatened Sarah's father (death threat!), threatened Sarah ("I'll get you too"), tasered his 12 year old stepson, drove drunk in his AST cruiser, got a pass by a fellow Trooper who stopped him for erratic driving a second time while in civvies and just a host of other things not yet released to the public. He got away with it and got another pass by the Commissioner's appointed AST Trooper Internal Affairs investigator with a tiny slap on the wrist. Five days off without pay to be exact!!
This maverick Trooper is still on the payroll but only just. The Union intervening saved his malcontent ass. He'll yet get his I'm sure. Incredible heat is being heaped on the Troopers. Public heat, not the Governors office.
The Democrats had the audacity to appoint a obviously biased investigator, Rep. "Gunny" French (so called because he lied about being in the USMC while running for the Legislature) is a staunch liberal and under the orders of Senate President Lyda Green who hates Sara. She hates Sarah because after being elected Governor Sarah told the whole Legislature in one of her first meetings with them that, quote; "All of you here need some Adult Supervision!!!". Sarah was seriously pissed and not afraid of anyone there.That played wonderfully well with Alaskan's after all of our corruption and after all of her successful battles against a seriously entrenched corrupt government here in Alaska. It pissed off the whole Legislature though! They have stayed pissed but also afraid of her because of her popularity.
She reminds me personally of our Alaska wolverine which will fight anything in it's path if it see's fit to do so. No respect at all for size or position. Wife Cindy is in this category too. Unfortunately.
In closing I must tell you that she is the best, most moral and most focused leader I've seen since President Reagan. I feel, really strongly, that like Alaska the rest of our country will love her within a few weeks. Put simply, she represents middle America like NO leader we've ever had. I think McCain made a totally brilliant move in choosing her. She's a maverick who is probably tougher and more focused than McCain himself....and she won't be a total "Yes Man" or more appropriately, woman. McCain will love her.
In 2012 she will be President.
My best to all of you in the hurricane belt. I hope you are all OK. We just had another mini Air America reunion here in beautiful Soldotna, Alaska along the Kenai river. We'll be doing this every year now I guess. Like our Flying Tiger pal's before us there are not that many Air America guys left. I'm 71 myself this September 16. Where the hell did the years go so fast?
My best to you old buddy
Semper Fi,
George W. Murray
This was passed to me by one of our MOAA members, Col. Russ Wiley, who is a straight shooter:
Charlie
From an old Air America buddy in Alaska - actually sent to someone else but Cc'ed to me.
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And from a Alaska man who is a very serious cynic about all things political here is my take on Sarah.
I met and spoke with Sarah Palin about two years ago at our downtown Park Strip. It is a place for walking, carnivals, political outdoor things and such. She was cooking hotdogs at a fund raiser and introducing herself to the public as a Governor hopeful.
She came by and said the usual "Hi, I'm Sarah Palin and I am running for Governor"...and I expected her to keep on to the next person but she asked me who I was and what I did in Alaska and we ended up talking for 15 minutes about me, Air America (she was all agog!) and my career in the Army and AAM. She is a pilot (Super Cub) I'm told although all she told me about that was that she loved flying.
As I watched her over the next six months as she successfully ran for Governor I was really impressed. I was impressed greatly even before that after she resigned a good position (Alaska Gas and Oil Regulatory Commission) because a fellow Commission member (Chair of the Alaska Republican Party) misused their office and position. He was using the FAX, computers, printing room and all to promote the Republican endeavors while in a State job. That is a huge no-no in any government employment position.
She resigned and made her point and within weeks Randy Ruderich (the above bad guy) found his ass out on the street and a subsequent investigation found him guilty and he was fined $12,000. Small change actually but a giant point was made.
Next she went after our most horrible Governor ever, Governor Murkowski, and damned if she didn't beat him! All of us here in Alaska, except the Democrats, are sick of our State's corruption. That fact was shouted to the heavens after she was elected with an overwhelming point spread.
After she got into office she started after corrupt legislators and with the FBI's help we've put four of them in prison, indicted six more and the "Corrupt Bastard's Club" as they arrogantly called themselves (even had hats made with CBC on the front!) suddenly found it no fun anymore. Club membership is now in the toilet!!
The current flap which has cost her a ten point loss of popularity (she's still 82%!) was over firing a popular Commissioner of Public Safety who is responsible for our Alaska State Troopers. She fired him for no STATED reason which was her prerogative as the Gov. He served entirely at her option. She and her whole family had a bad, bad experience with a rogue Trooper who was married to Sarah's sister. His name is Trooper Wooten. This dimwit Trooper had threatened Sarah's father (death threat!), threatened Sarah ("I'll get you too"), tasered his 12 year old stepson, drove drunk in his AST cruiser, got a pass by a fellow Trooper who stopped him for erratic driving a second time while in civvies and just a host of other things not yet released to the public. He got away with it and got another pass by the Commissioner's appointed AST Trooper Internal Affairs investigator with a tiny slap on the wrist. Five days off without pay to be exact!!
This maverick Trooper is still on the payroll but only just. The Union intervening saved his malcontent ass. He'll yet get his I'm sure. Incredible heat is being heaped on the Troopers. Public heat, not the Governors office.
The Democrats had the audacity to appoint a obviously biased investigator, Rep. "Gunny" French (so called because he lied about being in the USMC while running for the Legislature) is a staunch liberal and under the orders of Senate President Lyda Green who hates Sara. She hates Sarah because after being elected Governor Sarah told the whole Legislature in one of her first meetings with them that, quote; "All of you here need some Adult Supervision!!!". Sarah was seriously pissed and not afraid of anyone there.That played wonderfully well with Alaskan's after all of our corruption and after all of her successful battles against a seriously entrenched corrupt government here in Alaska. It pissed off the whole Legislature though! They have stayed pissed but also afraid of her because of her popularity.
She reminds me personally of our Alaska wolverine which will fight anything in it's path if it see's fit to do so. No respect at all for size or position. Wife Cindy is in this category too. Unfortunately.
In closing I must tell you that she is the best, most moral and most focused leader I've seen since President Reagan. I feel, really strongly, that like Alaska the rest of our country will love her within a few weeks. Put simply, she represents middle America like NO leader we've ever had. I think McCain made a totally brilliant move in choosing her. She's a maverick who is probably tougher and more focused than McCain himself....and she won't be a total "Yes Man" or more appropriately, woman. McCain will love her.
In 2012 she will be President.
My best to all of you in the hurricane belt. I hope you are all OK. We just had another mini Air America reunion here in beautiful Soldotna, Alaska along the Kenai river. We'll be doing this every year now I guess. Like our Flying Tiger pal's before us there are not that many Air America guys left. I'm 71 myself this September 16. Where the hell did the years go so fast?
My best to you old buddy
Semper Fi,
George W. Murray
Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:05 pm
Keep your heads down and feet up it is really getting deep. 
My god! Sarah to the rescue!
My god! Sarah to the rescue!
Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:23 pm
mustangdriver wrote:
She's hot, she shoots guns, and is a float plane owner. Sounds like my kind of gal.
She hunts too
Her only flaw is that she sold the Governor's Westwind 
Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:38 pm
Sold the Hoover and kept the Recip, whats wrong with that! 
Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:39 pm
Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:42 pm
[quote="PinecastleAAF"]Maybe she can drum up a little cashola for a shelter for the Elmendorf P-38/quote]
I'm not allowed to have political opinions, but you might need yourself a bonafied community organizer for these kind of matters!
I'm not allowed to have political opinions, but you might need yourself a bonafied community organizer for these kind of matters!
Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:49 pm
I'm with you Spanner, preferably a community organizer with no real responsibilities that might cause them to lose their focus !! 
political
Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:25 pm
Since you guys wrote all the stuff about the candidate, I'll add a few that were pretty funny, if they weren't so sad.
This is true, not even made up, as I saw the video: Cindy McCain was being interviewed and asked about the new 44 yr old v p candidate not having any national or international experience,. Cindy answered with a straight face, "That since Alaska was our closest state to Russia, that Gov. Palin had international experience". A comedian picked up on this statement and said since Mt. McKinley in Alaska is the highest US point, then Palin must also have outer space experience.
On the more serious side, according to today's paper, Palin stood up in her very conservative church and told the people that God sent us to invade Iraq, also that God wanted Alaska to build a big $40 billion pipeline for the natural gas companies. The video of this was on the church website, but was taken down in the last few days when it came out in public.
This is true, not even made up, as I saw the video: Cindy McCain was being interviewed and asked about the new 44 yr old v p candidate not having any national or international experience,. Cindy answered with a straight face, "That since Alaska was our closest state to Russia, that Gov. Palin had international experience". A comedian picked up on this statement and said since Mt. McKinley in Alaska is the highest US point, then Palin must also have outer space experience.
On the more serious side, according to today's paper, Palin stood up in her very conservative church and told the people that God sent us to invade Iraq, also that God wanted Alaska to build a big $40 billion pipeline for the natural gas companies. The video of this was on the church website, but was taken down in the last few days when it came out in public.
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Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:27 pm
I've put my watch and wallet in a big zip-lock because I'm with pinecastle, it's not only gonna get deep, it'll also be fraught with rip tides and undertow
Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:47 pm
Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:57 pm
bdk wrote:
Ahhhhh What's not to love.
Re: political
Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:59 pm
Bill Greenwood wrote:Since you guys wrote all the stuff about the candidate, I'll add a few that were pretty funny, if they weren't so sad.
This is true, not even made up, as I saw the video: Cindy McCain was being interviewed and asked about the new 44 yr old v p candidate not having any national or international experience,. Cindy answered with a straight face, "That since Alaska was our closest state to Russia, that Gov. Palin had international experience". A comedian picked up on this statement and said since Mt. McKinley in Alaska is the highest US point, then Palin must also have outer space experience.
On the more serious side, according to today's paper, Palin stood up in her very conservative church and told the people that God sent us to invade Iraq, also that God wanted Alaska to build a big $40 billion pipeline for the natural gas companies. The video of this was on the church website, but was taken down in the last few days when it came out in public.
Not to argue, because I don't like politics at all, but she does have more experience than both Obama and Bidden put together. So I think people need to chill on that aspect of it. I don't call myself a R or a D because I just go and vote for who I think is best.
Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:10 pm
I watched with glee Sarah's speech last night. BING! BANG! BIFF! Knockout punch after knockout punch ... and a GENUINE resume of accomplishments against entrenched powers that the community organizer only wish he could match. What a gal!
And a pilot, too?! I'm in love!
Wade
And a pilot, too?! I'm in love!
Wade
exp
Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:19 pm
Mustang, I'd rather keep it humorous, but let's not push things that are false. In 1973 Joe Biden was elected to the Senate. where he has served for 35 years. In 1973 Palin was 9 years old. She has NO national or international experience; that is NONE. She has 1 1/2 years as gov. of a rural state, before that, she was mayor of a small town that has less people than Oshkosh has airplanes in late July.
Biden has been Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I think you'll find Obama is a Senator also.
Biden has been Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I think you'll find Obama is a Senator also.
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