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Lots of Non-AVG shark mouth'd Tomahawks here:

http://www.geocities.com/raf_112_sqdn/raf112photos.html

IMO best looking mouth I've ever seen on a Hawk :D

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I know I'm reviving a very old thread here, but I was going through the stats on my flickr account, and noticed
a few referring urls from here on WIX. This thread was the first listed, and I don't recall seeing it before.

After a quick looksee, I thought I'd clear some things up here... the link provided in the thread opener by HGUCSU
is to an image in my flickr stream. Jack was fairly close when he said it looks like a screen grab from
'God Is My Co-Pilot'... it's actually from 'Flying Tigers'. (As is mentioned in the image description)

As already mentioned, the photos posted by Shay do not show an ex-AVG Tomahawk... it is a Stateside P-40.
However, it is not an 'A model' as claimed by hang the expense. It is a P-40... no suffix. There was a single
P-40 converted into a recce ship and designated P-40A, but there was no P-40A production series. Note the
presence of only one gunport on each wing, (as already pointed out) and the lack of cutouts in the rear-quarter
glass, port side... hallmarks of the P-40, first production variant in the H81 series. These two images were originally
posted on flickr by a user whose handle escapes me at the moment...

Anyway, the biplane is indeed a PT-11 and those photos were taken at Roosevelt Field, as mentioned by Shay... but
they have nothing to do with the movie 'Flying Tigers'. The takeoff and landing sequences in that movie were filmed
with P-40Fs here in Buffalo, NY.

Obergrafeter wrote:
If you back up one picture from the Sharksmouth you see an unknown airfield "Possibly Waco" Interesting
picture in that it has AT-10s in the background. Didn't know they were at Waco. Could the pic possibly be Ellington?
Anybody got ideas. You back up a couple more pics there is a close up of one AT-10 and you can almost make out
the Ser #. Maybe someone with a better computer (or younger eyes) can read it, then simply go to Baugher and
find out where it is.

That's also from my flickr stream... I've provided the serial number in my description for the photo... it's 41-26583.
My initial idea that it might be Waco AAF was based on info from Joe Baugher's database, but I have since found
out that it is quite possibly Turner Field in Georgia. The AT-10 in the photo was involved in a takeoff accident at
Turner on August 10th, 1943...


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Here is a few.Little different

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rwdfresno wrote:
mustangdriver wrote:
Jack Cook wrote:
That looks like a screen grab from the movie God is my Co-Pilot


Now there is a movie I would love to grab on DVD.


I had the privilege of watching the movie "God is My Co-Pilot" with Dennis Morgan who played Scot in the movie. It was very interesting to watch the movie and have the behind the scenes commentary at the same time.


Scotty was a friend for 40 years. Loved the guy. In fact I own a two hour tape Scotty sent me right after Cathrine died where he just sat down in his living room out in Arizona and dictated random thoughts about his life in China and his association with Chennault. He went into great detail about Chennault's tactics.
The story concerning GIMCP happened in one weekend when Charlie Scribner locked Bob up in a hotel room in the Waldorf Astoria with a dictiphone and a box of carbon cylinders. Bob spoke the story into the dictiphone and had room service feed him between recordings.
Funny aside; Bob spent the rest of his life on the rubber chicken circuit talking to old ladies clubs explaining to every one of them that he didn't actually shoot down a Japanese ace named Tokyo Joe :-)) Warner of course took the liberty of inserting the character via the great actor Richard Loo.
Bob of course finished his life back in his home state of Ga. at the Warner Robbins Museum. I spoke to him shortly before he died.
Great guy. Wonderful life. Ole Scotty did it all!!

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kenlyco wrote:
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Your first shot is an old friend of mine; Herb Fisher. Herb was one of the three pilots who did the flying in "Flying Tigers".
He was with the New York Port Authority in later years.
Herb did high speed dive tests in the Jug using prototype props of various designs. He reached some very high mach numbers but nturally never made it though mach one which can't be done in a prop fighter.
Very nice guy.

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Hey guys,I did not mean the bird was an A model but an early p-40.I do know the difference.I meant it was the fore runner to the B model.Some of these "early P-40s"were re-winged with 4 gun wings and designated as P-40Gs. A few of these were sent to Russia under lend-lease.Back in 92 we recovered what we think were the remains of one of these but it was completly destroyed.I did get Ak255 and Ak295 and then later the remains of Ak 301.Lots of goodies from that wreck including the data plate.

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hang the expense wrote:
Hey guys,I did not mean the bird was an A model but an early p-40.I do know the difference.

Then why use the term 'A-Model' at all? Folks who don't know much about P-40 variants will see that and think 'P-40A',
which is just not the case. I'm not slamming you or anything... I'm simply calling for a bit of clarity to prevent the
spread of misinformation.

As to P-40Gs, for those who are not familiar with the variant, here's a photo showing at least one, (second
ship on the left) possibly two. (first on the right) The four-gun installation is not visible on either, but the partially
obscured tail number on the ship to the left indicates a P-40G serial, (42-142xx) while that on the right, although
not clearly visible on the original print, (possibly 39-238) seems to be consistent with the serial numbers of
some P-40s that were converted to P-40Gs.

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Almost forgot... regarding the photos posted by kenlyco...

The first, as Mr. Henriques pointed out, shows Herb Fisher in a P-40F. The photo was taken during filming
for 'Flying Tigers'.

The second shows an RCAF Kittyhawk I, RAF serial AK833, RCAF serial 1039. The image posted by kenlyco is
enlarged from an image I posted HERE...

The third shows a P-40K, serial number 42-9985. Anyone know exactly where this ship was based? I wanna
say Sarasota AAF, Florida, as I have a couple photos of a similarly marked ship (or possibly the same ship) taken
in downtown Sarasota. You can see those HERE and HERE.

The fourth image was most likely taken from my flickr photo stream and shows a P-40C from either the 30th or 31st FS,
37th FG... more info HERE. If anyone can provide definite info as to the squadron this ship was with when photographed,
I'd be most appreciative.

The fifth image shows P-40Bs at Biggs Field, Texas. This photo is included on my website HERE, courtesy of Cliff Bossie.

The sixth image shows Sue Parish's P-40N, serial number 44-7619, when it was modified as a racer. ('Twas never
flown in a race, if I recall correctly.) That's a neat shot, and one I've not seen before.


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Sorry, I thought this post was headed for the archives.


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