Surviving Vintage racers

[Wolverine]

How many original survivors are there?

Here's what I can think of off the top of my head.

1) DH 88-1 with Shuttleworth (Grovensor) and 1 other in UK (Black Magic)

2) Travel Air Mystery Ship-in California

3) Travel Air 5000- the Woolaroc at Woolaroc in OK

4) Laird-Turner Meteor--Smithsonian

5) Wittman racer in Oshkosh and Smithsonian.

I know there are more. Enlighten me please.

[bdk]

How many original survivors are there?

Here's what I can think of off the top of my head.

1) DH 88-1 with Shuttleworth (Grovensor) and 1 other in UK (Black Magic)

2) Travel Air Mystery Ship-in California

3) Travel Air 5000- the Woolaroc at Woolaroc in OK

4) Laird-Turner Meteor--Smithsonian

5) Wittman racer in Oshkosh and Smithsonian.

I know there are more. Enlighten me please.

Keith Rider R-4 and R-6 with Planes of Fame (along with a Cosmic Wind and one or two more Goodyear racers):

http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/specs/unkn/rid-r4.htm
http://aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu/specs/unkn/rid-r6.htm

Frank Hawks' "Texaco 13" Travel-Air Mystery Ship is at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago.

NEAM has the Keith Rider R-3/Marcoux-Bromberg Special:

http://www.neam.org/marcoux4.htm

[Jeffrey]

depending on how far you want to go with this and where, there's harry butler's bristol M.1C which won the first, as far as I know only, aerial derby here in Adelaide South Australia. It presently is on display in a town called Minlaton.

[kennsmithf2g]

Hi,

Depending how far back you wish to go, The 2004 program guide from the Society of Air Racing Historians Symposium lists the following survivors:

1909-192 Gorden Bennett Trophy Racers -2- survive
1013-1931 Schneider Cup races -7- survive
Pre-war Long Distance Racers -6- survive
1920-1925 Pulitzer Trophy Racers -1- survivor & wings from -2- others
1933-1936 Coupe Deutsch de la Muerthe -4- survive
pre-war US National Air racers -44- survive
other 1930's racers -6- survive
1946-1949 Cleveland National Air Racers -22- ex-warbirds
-17- Goodyear Class
-2- jets
TTFN....Kenn

Hi, any chance you could post some pictures of the Mystery ship, and perhaps a description of it's current status? thanks

Thanks, looking forward to them, any and all info on such a project would be greatly appreciated!

[Wolverine]

How many Mystery Ships survive? What happened to the Barnes' one?

[turbo_NZ]

Hey, don't forget the Hughes H-1B at the Smithsonian.
(correct me if I'm wrong)


TNZ

[JimH]

Ike and Mike
Pete
Goon
Crosby CR-4
Wittmans Chief Oshkosh/ Buster
Bonzo
Roscoe Turners LTR and Wedell Williams #57
Marceaux Bomberg
Hughes Racer
Gee Bee QED in Mexico City
Caudron (in France)

to name a few

Jim

[Melvyn Hiscock]

A good friend has a C-34 Airmaster that was owned by Roscoe Turner. Dunno if he raced it though.

MH

[kennsmithf2g]

Hi

Here is a list thru the 1950's compiled by the Society of Air Racing Historians. It is a dynamic list as planes are always being addded. Our website is www.airrace.com . We are having our annual Symposium this comming weekend in Cleveland, Ohio. For more information, see our website www.airrace.com

Kenn Smith
Symposium Tape Librarian
Society of Air Racing Historians

Historic Racing Planes Still in Existence
Prepared by the Society of Air Racing Historians - February, 2004

1909-1920 Gordon Bennett Trophy Races
1910 Baby Wright Racer - Musee del'Air, le Bourget Aeroport, Paris, France
1920 Dayton-Wright Racer - Henry Ford Museum, Dearborn, Michigan

1913-1931 Schneider Cup Races
1919 Supermarine Sea Lion I -hull in Science Museum, London, England
1925 Curtiss R3C-2 (A-7054) - National Air & Space Museum, Washington, D.C.
1925 Macchi M.39 (MM76) – Italian Air Force Museum, Vigna di Valle, Italy
1929 Supermarine S.6A (N-248) - R. J. Mitchell Museum, Southampton, England
1929 Macchi M.67 (MM 105) - Italian Air Force Museum, Vigna di Valle, Italy
1929 Fiat C.29 - Italian Air Force Museum, Vigna di Valle, Italy
1931 Supermarine S.6B (S. 1595) - Science Museum, London, England

Pre-War Long-Distance Races
GeeBee R.6H "Q.E.D." - Municipal Museum, Ciudad Lerdo, Mexico
deHavilland 88 Comet "Grosvenor House" G-ACSS - active at Old Warden Aerodrome, England
deHavilland 88 Comet "Black Magic" G-ACSP - under restoration by Ken Fem, in Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire, England
Percival Mew Gull G-AEXF - Tony Smith, Real Aeroplane Co., Breighton, Yorkshire, England
Boeing 247 NR-25 7Y - as NC-13369 in National Air & Space Museum, Washington, D.C.
Travelair Woolaroe - Woolaroe Museum, Bartlesville, Oklahoma

1920-1925 Pulitzer Trophy Races
Curtiss R-? - wing panel in USAF Museum, Dayton, Ohio
Curtiss R-? - wing panel in Arkansas Air Museum, Fayetteville, Arkansas
1925 Curtiss R3C-2 - in National Air & Space Museum on floats

1933-1936 Coupe Deutsch de la Muerthe
Bugatti I 00 - EAA Museum, Oshkosh, Wisconsin
Caudron-Regnier - Musee de I'Air, le Bourget Aerodrome, Paris, France
Potez 53 - Musee de I'Air, le Bourget Aerodrome, Paris, France
Varivol V-66 - never completed; under restoration by GPPA in Angers, France

Pre-War U.S. National Air Races (* flying)
*Bird (N 114K, Melba Beard) -Arlene Beard, Clovis, California
Brown B-1 (NX-83Y) - ca. Tampa-St. Petersburg, Florida
Cessna C-34 Airmaster (NC- 15463) - in Sweden as SE-AML.
Chester Jeep - EAA Museum, Oshkosh, Wisconsin
Chester Goon - stored by Crawford Aviation & Auto Museum, Cleveland, Ohio
Church Midwing (X9167) - EAA Museum, Oshkosh, Wisconsin
Crosby CR-4 - EAA Museum, Oshkosh, Wisconsin
*Davis D- I -W (NC- 13576) - Roy Wicker & Barabara Kitchens, Quitman, Georgia
Falck Special - never completed by Bill Falck; in EAA Museum, Oshkosh, Wisconsin
Howard DGA-3 Pete - Crawford Aviation & Auto Museum, Cleveland, Ohio
Howard DGA-4 Mike - Joey Binder, Fremont, Ohio
Howard DGA-5 Ike - Joey Binder, Fremont, Ohio
Kadiak Speedster (originally N11312) -Tom Chiodo, based in Sacramento, California
*Laird Commercial (NC- 110) - Douglas Fuss, Arlington, Texas
Laird Solution - BradleyAir Museum, Windsor Locks, Connecticut
Laird Super Solution - fuselage framework in National Air & Space Museum, Dulles Intemafional Airport Viginia
Laird Speedwing -
Laird-Turner LTR- 14 - National Air & Space Museum, Dulles Airport Virginia
Lockheed Orion (NR- 12222) - Swiss Transport Museum, Luzerne, Switzerland
Lockheed Vega "Winnie Mae" - National Air & Space Museum, Washington, D.C.
Lockheed Vega (NR-7954) - ??
Lockheed Vega (X7429) - pieces owned by Historic Aircraft Inc., Chalfont, Pensylvania
Keith Rider R-3 Marcoux-Bromberg - New England Air Museum, Windsor Locks, Connecticut
Keith Rider R-4 Schoenfeldt "Firecracker'- Planes of Fame, Chino, California
Keith Rider R-5 "Jackrabbit'- EAA Museum, Oshkosh, Wisconsin
Keith Rider R-6 "8-Ball" - Planes of Fame, Chino, California
*Monocoupe (NC- 12345) - College Park Airport, College Park, Maryland
Monocoupe (NR-105W) - under, restoration by George Evans in Cave Creek, Arizona
Monocoupe 113 Special (NR8917) - stored by Ed Saurenman, Wichita, Kansas
Mummert Mercury (X-13223) - Glenn Curtiss Museum, Hammondsport, New York
Mummert Mercury (NR- 10360) -
Rearwin 2000 Ken-Royce (NC592H) - Old Kingsbury Aerodrome, Kingsbury,Texas
*Spartan Executive #51 (NC- 17605) - Screaming Eagle Aviation, Santa Paula, California
*Spartan Executive #72 (NC- 17615) - Jim Patterson, Louisville, Kentucky
Tilbury-Fundy "Flash”- McLean County Museum, Bloomington, Illinois
Travel Air Mystery (NR-613K) - Bames Aviation, Mojave, California
Travel Air Mystery (NR-614K) - Staggerwing Museum, Tullahoma, Tennessee
Travel Air Mystery (NR- 1 313) - Museum of Science and Industry, Chicago, Illinois
*Travel Air 4000 (NR-671H, Louise Thaden, 1929 Women's Air Derby) - Air & Space Museum, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
Travel Air 4000 (NC-4419) - under restoration in Williamson, Georgia
*Travel Air 4000 (NC8192) - Russ Ward, New Zealand)
*Waco CRG (N600Y, 2 nd in 1930 Ford Air Tour) - Peter Heins, Arcanum, Ohio
Wedell Williams #57 – Crawford Aviation & Auto Museum, Cleveland, Ohio
Wittman "Bonzo" - EAA Museum, Oshkosh, Wisconsin

Other 1930's European Racers
Comper Swift (G-ABTC) - Cornwall, England
Comper Swift (G-ABUS) - under restoration, Ludlow, England
Comper Swift (G-ABUU) - West Sussex, England
Comper Swift "Scarlet Angel" (G-ACTF) - Old Warden Aerodrome, England
Miles M.2L Hawk Speed Six (G-ADGP) - Wokinghain, England
Miles M.5 Sparrowhawk (G-ADNL) - being restored by Tirn Cox in England

1946-1949 Cleveland National Air Races (Thompson, Bendix, etc. Trophy Races)
#2 North American A-36A-on display in USAF Museum, Dayton, Ohio
#11 Lockheed F-5G"City Slicker'-U.S.Air Force Museum, Dayton, Ohio
#12 BelIP-39Q"GallopingGertie'-National Air & Space Museum, Dulles Airport, Virginia
#14 Lockheed P-38L N25Y-damaged, Marvin "Lefty" Gardner Austin, Texas
#15 BelI P-39Q N4829N-Air Zoo Museum, Kalmnazoo, Michigan
#21 BelI P-63F-Commemorative Air Force
#37 NAA P-51D (as N51DH)-McMinnville, Oregon
#42 Republic P-47M –Yankee Air Museum, Chino, California
#45 NAA P-5 I D - (New England Air Museum, Windsor Locks, Connecticut)
#46 NAA P-5 I C - as warbird in Fantasy of Flight museum, Polk City, Florida
#47 Lockheed F-5G-Tom Reilly Vintage Aircraft, Kissimmee,Florida
#55 Lockheed F-5G-McGuire AFB, NewJersey
#57 Goodyear F2G - flying: Bob Odegaard, Kindred, North Dakota
#60 NAA P-5 I C -Aerospace Museum, San Diego, California
#74 Goodyear F2G - under restoration, Bob Odegaard, Kindred, North Dakota
#80 NAA P-5 I K "Second Fiddle" - Crawford Aviation & Auto Museum, Cleveland, Ohio
#80 Spitfire XIV - active (as C-GSPT), Robert. Jens, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
#87 BelI P-63C-flying with The Old Flying Machine Co., Duxford Airfield ,England
#90/#99 Goodyear FG- 1D - Fantasy of Flight Museum, Polk City, Florida
#92 Goodyear FG- 1D - pieces in Walter Soplata's collection, Newbury, Ohio
#92 Bell P-63C - Southport Aviation, Inc., Reno, Nevada
#95 Lockheed F-5G - Flying Heritage Collection, Bellevue, Washington

1946-1949 Cleveland National Air Races (Goodyear Trophy Races)
#1 Wittman"Bonzo"-EAA Museum, Oshkosh Wisconsin
#3 Cosmic Wind "Little Toni" - under restoration in Washington State?
#4 Cosmic Wind "Minnow" - under restoration in Peterborough, England
#5 Cosmic Wind "Ballerina" - under restoration in Nottingham, England
#7 Chester "Swee’ Pea'- stored in southern California
# 14 Miller "Little Gem" – as 'Ole Tiger' in municipal museum, Whittier, California
#16 Mercury Air "Shoestring'-The Air Museum, Chino, California
#20 Wittman "Buster'- National Air & Space Museum, Washington, D.C.
#29 L.I.T. "Chappy" - Lawrence Technological University, Southfield, Michigan
#31 Kistler Special - ??
#44 Loose Special - George Fairfield, Wyoming
#59 Christensen "Zipper" -to be restored in Lakeville, Minnesota
#67 Long "P-Shooter" - EAA Museum, Oshkosh, Wisconsin
#81 Francis & Angell "Whistler" - restored, location unknown
#85 Hurlburt "Hurricane" - stored in California
#94 Foss "Ginny" - under restoration by Mike Dewey, Santa Paula, California
#95 Allenbaugh 'Califomian" - under restoration by Robin Reid, Sunnyvale, California

1946-1949 Cleveland National Air Races (military jet races)
Lockheed P-80A (m/s 44-85123) 1946 Thompson J-Division winner- Lackland AFB, San Antonio, Texas
NAA F-86A (m/s 48-263) 1949 Thompson J-Division winner - Crawford Aviation and Auto Museum, Cleveland, Ohio

1950's 190 Cu. In. Class Racers

#74 Mayer "Mr. D" – Quonset Air Museum, Rhode Island
#88 Kensinger & Corkill “tater Chip" - Jim Sampson, Indianapolis, Indiana

[bdk]

What about the P-51 Galloping Ghost, Miss Candace, Jeannie, Spectre, & Leeward Air Ranch Special?

44-15651 N79111

[CorsairFreak]

Here's #80 NAA P-5 I K "Second Fiddle" as it appeared a few weeks ago.

[bdk]

Here's #80 NAA P-5 I K "Second Fiddle" as it appeared a few weeks ago.

Hmmmm.... I wonder if they'd be willing to trade a fiberglass replica for that? I like it!

[HarvardIV]

How many original survivors are there?

Here's what I can think of off the top of my head.

1) DH 88-1 with Shuttleworth (Grovensor) and 1 other in UK (Black Magic)

2) Travel Air Mystery Ship-in California

3) Travel Air 5000- the Woolaroc at Woolaroc in OK

4) Laird-Turner Meteor--Smithsonian

5) Wittman racer in Oshkosh and Smithsonian.

I know there are more. Enlighten me please.

If I remember right the DH-88 is a replica.