Sikorsky S-38

Versatile · **Joined:** Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:35 pm **Posts:** 636

There is or was an S-38 in a Lake called"Two Lakes" in Alaska. Water 365 ft deep they say and large house size boulders on the bottom.
Last owner i knew of was people named tushy located in Maine and they thought it was gold. Anyone heard of this one?

airnutz · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2007 3:17 pm

Versatile wrote:

There is or was an S-38 in a Lake called"Two Lakes" in Alaska. Water 365 ft deep they say and large house size boulders on the bottom.
Last owner i knew of was people named tushy located in Maine and they thought it was gold. Anyone heard of this one?

Are you sure it's an S-38? Greg Herrick was/or is, after an after an S-39 at
Two Lakes. Scroll down to Aircraft Under Restoration and click on S-39...

www.goldenwingsmuseum.com/Aircraft.html

Versatile · **Joined:** Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:35 pm **Posts:** 636

By the info it is a S-39. I talked to the people named tushy back about 1998 and they wanted a million for it! Went onto something more real.
There is suppposedly a C185 that went thru the ice with all the gear. I spoke to a guy that lives at the lake and he says he bought it from the ins company.

airnutz · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2007 3:47 pm

Ahhh! Before you give up, you might run your S-38 story past Mr. Herrick or
someone at the museum..sounds like that lake has claimed of few birds?
You'd think the Tushy's would remember whether they owned a -38 or -39?

Canso42 · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2007 2:24 pm

How many lakes in that part of the continent have stories of sunken aircraft? Most seem to be a muffed water landing or breaking through the ice. How about the one about the Zenith Z6A biplane that went through?
(This would be an entertaining thread if everyone related stories like this that they've heard.)

Canso42. Matter of fact there's a Catalina or two sunken in far northern lakes.

vjcapone · **Posted:** Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:10 pm

Just saw the thread on the S-39. I was part of Greg Herrick's team which attempted the recovery in 2002. It was an S-39 and in an attempted landing one wheel was not fully retracted. She flipped upon landing, the pilot and his wife escaped, however their dog was lost and the cause of the sinking. the couple was rescued by a couple of fish & game folks. Victor the pilot convinced the fish biologists to take him back to the plane which was floating inverted. He hatched a hole in the bottom to try and save the dog. This of course released teh air that was floating her and down she went. verified the story because we could see the hole he cut on sonar. there is a second more modern aircraft also in the lake which was located during the search for the S-39.

What makes you thin there are a few Catalinas farther north?

airnutz · **Posted:** Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:03 pm

vjcapone wrote:

I was part of Greg Herrick's team which attempted the recovery in 2002.

Welcome to the WIX VJ! Do you have any idea what Mr. Herricks plans are for the S-39. 200ft in clear
water...very attractive.. :wink:

Any clues as to what the 'more modern' bird is?

vjcapone · **Posted:** Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:28 am

There are some technical hurdles that need to be overcome for a second recovery attempt. She is one the bottom inverted. The entire wing is buried in glacial clay. This would require divers on the bottom using jet pumps to break up the mud. Diving at 200 feet requires mixed gas and a decompression chamber to meet OSHA diving requirements. Since the only way in or out is via bush plane the logistics and cost of such an operation would be high. The hold up is a decompression chamber light enough that can be flown in. I know Greg is interested but we have not yet come up with a way to accomplish the task.

FYI the lake is not clear. Glacial streams carrying silt into the lake have reduced UW visibility to 2 - 3 feet.

THe other bird if memory serves was a cessna on floats but don't quote me on that

airnutz · **Posted:** Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:50 am

vjcapone wrote:

There are some technical hurdles that need to be overcome for a second recovery attempt.

FYI the lake is not clear. Glacial streams carrying silt into the lake have reduced UW visibility to 2 - 3 feet.

Really? The photos I've seen of the lake(s) appear to be pristine blue 'alpine' water...sorry to
hear the viz doesn't follow. I haven't read any divers reports of the waters.

If she was easy to get..I guess we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Canso42 · **Posted:** Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:08 pm

vjcapone,
I based my comment on erroneous information. I was specifically referring to C-FNJR that sank in a lake on the Arctic circle in about 2002. When I made that post I was unaware that it had indeed been raised and landed. It's still AT the lake, but no longer IN it.
I noticed that there's about a year's gap in posts here.

Floats up,
Canso42

Canso42 · **Posted:** Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:08 pm

WRONG! I need to sign off and get some sleep. I should have said C-FNJE.

goodnight

doug

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