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MKD1966
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I know the Corsair, Skyraider, Sea Fury and TBM have hydralic wing folds and the Wildcat is a manual fold system, but what about the Hellcat, Tigercat and Bearcat... Just curious as I never seen one of these fold wings at a airshow...
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MKD1966 wrote:
I know the Corsair, Skyraider, Sea Fury and TBM have hydralic wing folds and the Wildcat is a manual fold system, but what about the Hellcat, Tigercat and Bearcat... Just curious as I never seen one of these fold wings at a airshow...


The F8F is manually folding; that was done to save weight. Don't know about the F6F as I've never worked on one.

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MKD1966 wrote:
...but what about the Hellcat, Tigercat and Bearcat... Just curious as I never seen one of these fold wings at a airshow...

And for an extra point, which of the three had an ~um~ 'extra' wing reduction accessory, soon deleted after some asymmetric troubles in flight? :shock:

And Mark - 'Toothbrushholesmanship'. :wink:

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Bearcat - wingtips that snapped off when the plane exceeded its recommended dive speed.

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Regarding the manual wing folding aspect of the Bearcat and Hellcat, how exactly is that done? Is it just a matter of unlocking something and then just pushing on the wing, or are ropes or cables involved or what? How heavy are those wings to push around? How many people are required to fold the wings on the Bearcat and Hellcat? Can it be done with one person?
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Chris Brame wrote:
Bearcat - wingtips that snapped off when the plane exceeded its recommended dive speed.

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It's been a long time since I read about the shedding wingtips on the Bearcat, but I thought that they actually had explosives on the wingtips, which forced the wingtips off. Also, I thought it was related to G loading not airspeed. That's what I remembered reading, but I could be wrong. Anyone know decisively?
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Chris Brame wrote:
Bearcat - wingtips that snapped off when the plane exceeded its recommended dive speed.

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I thought it was a 'G' value that determined the snapping off of the outer panels. In other words, if the pilot saw he had to get into a serious dogfight, he could pull x number of G's, lose the wing panels and then pull all the G he could handle. I'm not sure, have to reread Corky's book.

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How many people are required to fold the wings on the Bearcat and Hellcat? Can it be done with one person?


On the F6F, two or three guys on the wing, and a guy in the cockpit working the hydraulic pump and the wing lock selector valve. They're really not that heavy, but have a lot of mass.

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