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Keep in mind folks it is pretty easy to armchair QB something like this. I am sure that as the first event they are still working out things and figuring what does and does not work. Having worked on an airshow committe for several years I know that it is impossible to figure it all out the first time. For the sevaerl years I worked at an airshow we had a different ramp plan everyyear based on lessons learned and airport conditions beyond our control.

GIve them a chance- after all they are at least going to the effort and trouble to fly them for you, which they really don't have to do. - I am sure they are just as anxious to provide a good show as you are to see one.

Pherhaps those that want to bithc would consider contacting the musuem and offering there assitance for the next event- Belive me it aint as easy as just openingin the hanger doors and rolling the airplanes out.

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Some questions from a non-local who is likely to try to drop in for a fly day later this summer.

What would the access be like if you actually were inside the museum as a paying visitor? Can you get out on the ramp or some observation area and get a reasonably close look at the birds being pushed out, fired up and taxied? Would the view of the runway be any better?

I realize those who have already seen the inside the museum might not want to buy another admission ticket just for a few minutes of action, but as a first-time visitor it would work for me.

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The aircraft that will fly are on the ramp when the museum opens, at noon the doors are opened you can see the planes with out a fence in your face. After the planes are started you can walk down to the veiwing area, after the flight the planes are brought back into the hangar. You have your hand stamped if you want to return to the hangar after the flight. This may change as we have more fly days.
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The Everett Herald ran a reply to a similar compliant about Fly Days.

http://www.heraldnet.com/article/200806 ... /288855065
<http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20080622/opinion02/288855065>

Sorry but I can't get this to work, I copied it from one that went to the correct link but this won't work for me.

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Norm,

The FHC viewing arrangements sound pretty reasonable to me, perhaps what is needed is just a bit more detail on the fly day page of the web site. Maybe with a map to this fire station entrance or something. I realize Mr. Allen is a Microsoft man so clear and concise documentation may not come naturally :) but it would likely settle things down. I look forward to checking out a fly day later in the summer.

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I got the link to work, there was a period missing in it....
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/200806 ... /288855065


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I got the link to work, there was a period missing in it....
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/200806 ... /288855065


.......their original draft:

MS Windows Update Patch WX123456 Size 1500MB
This patch fixes a problem regarding a recent fly day at the Flying Heritage Collection at Paine Field. It appears a hacker was not positioned in the best area to see the planes. This patch coordinates with Paine Field to have a viewing area adjacent to the runway and in front of the fire house so that there are no obstructions between the visitors and the planes. It will also inform people outside the museum in our parking lot that they should move a short distance to inside the main airport fence area. This patch also improves our directional signage moving forward.

Click here to download and see these magnificent aircraft in flight at 12 p.m. on June 28.

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two pages, and not one photo..*slaps self in forehead*

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As I said in my eaerlier post - give them some time to work out the bugs and try to provide constructive feasible ideas to the folks putting on the event and I am sure they improve it over time. :D
As business folks they certinaly don't want to alieneat the customer base- it just may be that they limited in what they can change each time.


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Hello all,

Can somebody provide a list of FHC "projects" - aircraft under restoration or potential restorations owned by FHC? There have been a lot of aircraft mentioned one place or another on WIX (Stuka? FW 189? Japanese aircraft?) but no formal list, or even a list of rumored aircraft. Maybe somebody visiting the museum can get some information from a talkative docent?

At the very list, can somebody tally up the rumors?

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Just wanted to add I was at the collection last week and enjoyed a good 10 minute chat with Norm, mainly talking about the P-47. (I was one of the artists up there on the friday morning )

Norm really knows his stuff, and it was a pleasure to talk with him, so any other Wixers make sure you track him down if you visit.

As for the collection it is superb, more so since most are in flying condition. The Me109E3 made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, as it must have been shot down virtually overhead from where I live before crashlanding on the French coast.

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Norm can just be seen behind the Jenny strut

This is a collection that will just keep getting better and better

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Hello all,

Can somebody provide a list of FHC "projects" - aircraft under restoration or potential restorations owned by FHC? There have been a lot of aircraft mentioned one place or another on WIX (Stuka? FW 189? Japanese aircraft?) but no formal list, or even a list of rumored aircraft. Maybe somebody visiting the museum can get some information from a talkative docent?

At the very list, can somebody tally up the rumors?

Kevin


I would like to see that also. Some of the ones I've known about or heard of on Wix over the years include:

P-38
Me 262 (ex Planes of Fame)
F-8 Crusader (1 or 2)
Fw 190A-5
B-17E

I'm sure many others know of much more.

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More than one P-38 perhaps?


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I don't know about the "Fly Days" :cry: , but I was up there last Friday afternoon with some ASAA artists (thanks to Norm for his enthusiastic help) and I gotta tell ya, I think that just about the finest examples of each type anywhere on the planet are on display - think the finest, most meticulous NASM examples you can think of ... but these guys actively fly!

I've seen my share of "pristine" restorations, but that Mustang just had my jaw dragging along the floor. It's, well, "perfect" in just about every way. I won't even get into the Bf 109 E3 ... a more stunning example of any type of warbird you'll likely never find, as you can begin to gather from Pete's photo above. From what I understand, this museum is but one of Mr. Allen's varied interests, but he can rest assured that this huge pile of money is very well spent. 8)

As Pete shows, the lighting inside the hangar is perfect for "natural light" digital shots - mine came out superb - and I shot "the paint off" UPUPA EPOPS. Stand by for a painting of that kite within the next year or so ... :wink:

Thanks again, Norm - my hat is off to you and all of the FHC staff. :D

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I would love to see more pics if anyone ahs time to paost them. I am thinking of heading out here while on my vacation in the fall.

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