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Pat Carry · **Posted:** Sat May 24, 2008 2:56 pm

In the current issue of Fly Past Magazine there is a comprehensive guide to UK Warbirds consisting of airworthy, restorations and static examples. Totally absent from the list are the 2 B-24's in Britain. I wonder why?

APG85 · **Posted:** Sat May 24, 2008 3:37 pm

Interesting since the one at Duxford should be (IMO) at the NASM Hazy Center. Don't get me wrong, Duxford is a fantastic place and they have done a great job restoring the exterior of the B-24 (I believe the interior is gutted) that had been neglectfully sitting for years at Lackland, but I would have liked to have seen it gone to the NASM... Any thoughts?

Bruce · **Joined:** Tue May 04, 2004 8:23 am **Posts:** 67

There are more holes in that guide than a colander.

Its absolute rubbish!

B24 - so, is it not a good thing to preserve one in the heart of East Anglia, where so many were based, and from where so many American boys started their final journeys?

Bruce

APG85 · **Posted:** Sat May 24, 2008 4:19 pm

A valid point. If the NASM had got it, it would probably be sitting in storage. Still, I would have liked to have seen a B-24 in their collection. How did Duxford manage to get their hands on that one at Lackland? Any other thoughts?

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

APG85 wrote:

A valid point. If the NASM had got it, it would probably be sitting in storage. Still, I would have liked to have seen a B-24 in their collection. How did Duxford manage to get their hands on that one at Lackland? Any other thoughts?

If I remember correctly, there was an airplane trade where the Air Force Museum traded that B-24 for a surplus Spitfire at Dux.

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Sat May 24, 2008 4:48 pm

No no. This 24 should be brought back to the states, but given to the Yankee Airforce Museum. After all its like one of the only Willow Run B-24s no? :wink:

And maybe put a nice wood and metal full size replica at Duxford.

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

Warbird Kid wrote:

No no. This 24 should be brought back to the states, but given to the Yankee Airforce Museum. After all its like one of the only Willow Run B-24s no? :wink:

And maybe put a nice wood and metal full size replica at Duxford.

I have no problem with it going to England. In fact, I'm glad there is some museum who is going to care for it and give it some TLC, unlike what the Air Force did with it at Lackland.

I want all airplanes to get the necessary preservation they deserve, whether or not they are in their country of origin or not.

I say, good to our fellow Englishmen for getting this rare airplane indoors where it belongs!

PeterA · **Posted:** Sat May 24, 2008 6:46 pm

APG85 wrote:

A valid point. If the NASM had got it, it would probably be sitting in storage. Still, I would have liked to have seen a B-24 in their collection. How did Duxford manage to get their hands on that one at Lackland? Any other thoughts?

It was traded for a Mk V Spitfire that had to be acquired by a circuitous route and then restored. A mark used by the USAAF.

A fair trade in my view.

The B-24 now looks magnificent.

PeterA

Warbird Kid · **Posted:** Sat May 24, 2008 8:29 pm

This is true. But she would look even better in the Sky! :wink:

Chris the Daydreamer

Pat Carry · **Posted:** Sat May 24, 2008 9:12 pm

I just noticed in this "comprehensive" guide the B-29 at Duxford isnt listed either. Strange!

Second Air Force · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 12:07 am

After all the years of research I've done on the B-24s and the brave young men who manned them, I for one am very glad to see one on English soil.

Scott

APG85 · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 6:30 am

Second Air Force wrote:

After all the years of research I've done on the B-24s and the brave young men who manned them, I for one am very glad to see one on English soil.

Scott

Actually, there are two. The other one is in the RAF Museum at Cosford. But don't look for it on the RAF Museum web page, they don't list it in their aircraft collecton!

blurrkup · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 8:36 am

APG85 wrote:

Second Air Force wrote:

After all the years of research I've done on the B-24s and the brave young men who manned them, I for one am very glad to see one on English soil.

Scott

Actually, there are two. The other one is in the RAF Museum at Cosford. But don't look for it on the RAF Museum web page, they don't list it in their aircraft collecton!

That is because it is no longer at Cosford, it is now in the Bomber Hall at Hendon. Was moved when the Valiant was moved to Cosford.

http://www.rafmuseum.com/london/collect ... erator.cfm

APG85 · **Posted:** Sun May 25, 2008 12:01 pm

Thanks for the update. The Warbird Registry needs to be updated on that one as well. Anyone have pictures of the move?

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