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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 10:59 am 
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What would you like to see made into a movie?

1. The Yamamoto mission would make a great film - lots of interesting characters. Great Story.

2. A crew on the Ploesti mission would make a nice "memphis belle" type film.

Other cool movie ideas?


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Kenney's 5th air force B-25's mounting tank cannons in the planes and skip bombing ships and all that they did in the south pacific....would make Fascinating stuff...and we gots PLENTY of B-25's for the movie!!

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Alone I Fly

An excellent read and would, given the right treatment become an excellent film.

http://www.aloneifly.com/

Just under the Blog link there is a link to the fi9rst chapter and I suggest that you read it (then buy the book) you wont be disappointed.

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How about "Goodbye Mickey Mouse", by Len Deighton?

Or, a remake of The War Lover...

But some of my favorite late night thoughts (that don't involve a blonde) deal with a Das Boot of the bomber campaign film. There are enough Luftwaffe planes flying by now, combined of course with all the Allied iron, to do a bang up job portraying the air war from the German point of view, perhaps putting on the screen "The First And The Last", by Galland.

But...please, PLEASE get a director who will listen to his consultants about historical accuracy, including the plot, like the guy who did Das Boot, and who will not, I repeat will not, screw up the film with the crap that permeated Memphis Belle and Pearl Harbor. Compare their feel to, you guessed it, Das Boot...


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It's not aviation, but I want to see a good book and movie on the battle of Breznitz(Americanized spelling) Czechoslovakia, 1945.

As to aviation related, I want to see a good movie about the Doolittle Raid. "Thirty Seconds Over Tokio" was fine, but I want something more all-encompassing- not just a bastardized tack-on to a sappy romance movie with poorly cast actors...

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Any of those ideas would make an excelent subject for a movie except for, the inevitable twisting of the tale to include Ima Cutie as an in theatre love interest/technical advisor-the adding of lead character Dave 'Skip" Briefing as the tough as nails, by the book squadron leader and of course we'd then need to make room for his trusty right hand man the 'rules be damned' good guy John Neversweat.
That would lead to the tried and true love triangle between all three to be straightened out by the wise old Crew Chief Ben DeMasterrod. We'd need a sacrificial pretty boy to watch going down in a twisted mass of flames as the entire IJNAF launches from Island X to attack the formations of clean living, patriotic do gooders............wait a second, I've just re written Memphis Belle :?

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One more from me-how about "Whip" by Martin Caiden?


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michaelharadon wrote:
How about "Goodbye Mickey Mouse", by Len Deighton?

Or, a remake of The War Lover...

But some of my favorite late night thoughts (that don't involve a blonde) deal with a Das Boot of the bomber campaign film. There are enough Luftwaffe planes flying by now, combined of course with all the Allied iron, to do a bang up job portraying the air war from the German point of view, perhaps putting on the screen "The First And The Last", by Galland.

But...please, PLEASE get a director who will listen to his consultants about historical accuracy, including the plot, like the guy who did Das Boot, and who will not, I repeat will not, screw up the film with the crap that permeated Memphis Belle and Pearl Harbor. Compare their feel to, you guessed it, Das Boot...


I agree with you but I'm afraid that with all the CGI capabilities, I suspect they wouldn't use much real iron.

As for avoiding all the crap, well if they made a movie that would appeal to lovers of old iron, it would flop at the box office as there are too few of us....

..hence all the crap you saw in Pearl Harbor.

I suspect that it's more possible to get people to identify with being stuck in a tin can sunk to the bottom of the Med than it is to identify with a ball turret gunner.


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An accurate Film depicting the AVG would be awesome. With all of those real life characters, even Hollywood would not have to embellish!


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[As for avoiding all the crap, well if they made a movie that would appeal to lovers of old iron, it would flop at the box office as there are too few of us....]


So, should our film be made in Germany if it's going to be about the Luftwaffe? We know that their films about old submarines do rather well over here...

Would somebody please be kind enough to pm me to explain how to quote. I need help!


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michaelharadon wrote:
[As for avoiding all the crap, well if they made a movie that would appeal to lovers of old iron, it would flop at the box office as there are too few of us....]


So, should our film be made in Germany if it's going to be about the Luftwaffe? We know that their films about old submarines do rather well over here...
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The difficulty is in the plot. Yeah as much as we love to see the iron you have to have a plot.

In Das Boot you had U-96's patrol as the plot:

Party hardy because you are scared
leave
boredom with no contacts
success
Gibraltar
sunk
raised
home
bombed out; some survivors die

You don't have that sort of story arc and cohesion when life is a series of missions.

Not that it can't be done - 12 O'Clock High was an outstanding movie. But there, you had the overarching plot of a General getting a Group back into shape and then cracking under the strain. The missions were not the plot - they were contributors. Most of the movie occured in the General's office. And the best parts of it were the interactions with Dean Jagger's character.

Who would care about the frustrations of a German Fighter Pilot when he becomes General of the Fighter Arm?

Wolfgang Peterson was a stickler for detail alright and that appeals to a lot of us. But that doesn't make a movie. He had a compelling theme. And note what happened later in a movie by the same guy - Troy. El Floppero.


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How about a movie about 162sqn, a canadian sqn that sank 4or 5 subs in a two month span in 1944, and a vc winner and seraral dfc, I know one thats still alive, could use some pby,sand i think some pby,s from that sqn still exist today.


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How about Grey Eagles, ex-Luftwaffe aces in restored 109s flying out of secret base in AZ, attacking the USAF and the CAF,


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"darn Heavy" a documentary of the 90th bomb group.

Needed:

3 B-24s, maybe 4
3 Zeros
3 Oscars
2 Corsairs
3 P-47s
1 B-25

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I think we need an updated Iron Eagle V. The storyline needs to be updated with the fighter pilot kid flying F-22's, attacking and shooting down new threats!

J/k!

There are so many great interesting historical storylines out there that none would have to be embellished very much.

How about a remake of Black Sheep Squadron, with a REAL storyline this time based on facts, not fiction!

There are more than enough Corsairs and real Zero's around to completely forgo CGI.


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