P-51B "Razorback" Canopy Cover?
Thu May 15, 2008 6:23 pm
Im looking for pictures of canopy covers for any razorback P-51s. Trying to build a 1/144th scale P-51B and haven't found anything yet. Thanks in advance.
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Thu May 15, 2008 9:36 pm
Awaiting all the flames, but I have to ask,
Where, again , exactly is the "razorback" feature to be found on any P-51B?
Where, again , exactly is the "razorback" feature to be found on any P-51B?
Thu May 15, 2008 10:20 pm
I was told that razorback refered to the back of a straight razor, ie a straight line from canopy to tail. Not beveled like the front or cutting edge.
Norm
Norm
Thu May 15, 2008 10:22 pm
Thu May 15, 2008 10:26 pm
Ho Boy, here we go again...
Thu May 15, 2008 10:34 pm
Leave Warbird Kid alone.
You KNOW EXACTLY what he is asking about so help him out!
We've all been through the "Razorback" discussion before, so do we really have to rehash it just to show how much we know?
Blue skies and helpful friends...
Jerry
You KNOW EXACTLY what he is asking about so help him out!
We've all been through the "Razorback" discussion before, so do we really have to rehash it just to show how much we know?
Blue skies and helpful friends...
Jerry
Thu May 15, 2008 11:07 pm
Haha, 
well I just suppose I've been used to the term, and equally think that any other unique wording we can use to describe these amazing aircraft are sweet too! 
Regardless for any reason, I am still looking for P-51B canopy cover pictures. Too lazy to detail the interior.
Chris the procrastinator!
And Jerry, these battles are mere squabble points compared to some other forums that exist out there!
All in playful nature!
Some forums are down right like the projects! Ive always thought WIX to be more of like an upscale rural area!
well I just suppose I've been used to the term, and equally think that any other unique wording we can use to describe these amazing aircraft are sweet too!
Regardless for any reason, I am still looking for P-51B canopy cover pictures. Too lazy to detail the interior.
Chris the procrastinator!
And Jerry, these battles are mere squabble points compared to some other forums that exist out there!
All in playful nature!
Some forums are down right like the projects! Ive always thought WIX to be more of like an upscale rural area!
Fri May 16, 2008 12:06 pm
Lets see......... A 1/144 Mustang would be about 3" long, then the canopy cover would be less than 1/2" long, its so small that I think it would be hard for someone to figure out it isn't perfect...........
Mark H
Mark H
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Fri May 16, 2008 12:42 pm
P51Mstg wrote:Lets see......... A 1/144 Musang would be about 3" long, then the canopy cover would be less than 1/2" long, its so small that I think it would be hard for someone to figure out it isn't perfect...........
Mark H
Mark,
Obviously you don't build models or frequent the forums (fora?) of those who do.
WK,
Do you need the standard canopy arrangement or the British modification?
James
Fri May 16, 2008 12:45 pm
OK visaliaaviation-
What do you call an early P-51 that makes you the self elected expert on this subject? Razor back is the only reference I've ever heard to distinguish early airframes from D's and later models for over 40 years-
What do you call an early P-51 that makes you the self elected expert on this subject? Razor back is the only reference I've ever heard to distinguish early airframes from D's and later models for over 40 years-
Fri May 16, 2008 1:09 pm
Easy...easy...no need to flame on...
Sat May 17, 2008 6:47 am
What makes me an "expert"? Absolutely nothing. I'm just an enthusiast, same as you. Just having some fun, actually.
However, it has been my observation that a "razorback" feature does appear on early P-47's. It has a rather pinched rear canopy and very sharp spine. Kind of like a certain wild hog, also known as a "razorback". I also believe that a fairly good case could be made for period pilots actually using the term in reference to P-47s, inspired by the hog. No such feature, that I can see, ever occured on a Mustang variant. It is phyisically different than -47 and exhibits no sharp spine, whatsoever. Did WWII era participants use the term for Mustangs? Don't know for sure, but I've had opportunity to ask a number of pilots,mechanics, even a couple of the designers, if it was. NONE could remember. It's possible that it was used., but it appears to be a post war discriptive term, possibly influenced by the references to P-47's in "razorback" and "bubbletop" comparisons? IIRC, NAA called the feature a "Flush Cockpit Enclosure". By all means, call it what ever you like.
However, it has been my observation that a "razorback" feature does appear on early P-47's. It has a rather pinched rear canopy and very sharp spine. Kind of like a certain wild hog, also known as a "razorback". I also believe that a fairly good case could be made for period pilots actually using the term in reference to P-47s, inspired by the hog. No such feature, that I can see, ever occured on a Mustang variant. It is phyisically different than -47 and exhibits no sharp spine, whatsoever. Did WWII era participants use the term for Mustangs? Don't know for sure, but I've had opportunity to ask a number of pilots,mechanics, even a couple of the designers, if it was. NONE could remember. It's possible that it was used., but it appears to be a post war discriptive term, possibly influenced by the references to P-47's in "razorback" and "bubbletop" comparisons? IIRC, NAA called the feature a "Flush Cockpit Enclosure". By all means, call it what ever you like.
Sat May 17, 2008 7:29 am
Whatever. I'm calling it a razorback 
Sat May 17, 2008 9:22 am
Well, GOOD THEN! Glad we got that straightened out.
Re: P-51B "Razorback" Canopy Cover?
Sat May 17, 2008 10:43 pm
Warbird Kid wrote:Im looking for pictures of canopy covers for any razorback P-51s. Trying to build a 1/144th scale P-51B and haven't found anything yet. Thanks in advance.
Hi Warbird Kid,
Do you still need info on a B model canopy cover?
I have one (it's original WWII issue), and I can take pictures and or measurements of it for you if you want.
Let me know...
Steve