Recovered Bf-109f-4 of Maj. Horst Carganico Wk. Nmr. 10256

Enemy Ace · **Posted:** Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:56 pm

Just got done reading the book "Warbird Recovery " by Gordon R. Page. The book ends with him getting a 109 back to Boulder, Colorado from Russia and starting restoration......Book published in 2005.
Anybody know how it's coming along? Anybody got any pics? not many pics in the books, plane looks pretty rough....

gtokid · **Posted:** Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:23 pm

According to http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/

Bf 109F-4 #10256 "Will be restored to airworthiness by Air Assets International of Lafayette, Colorado and Bob Hammer LLC (Me262 Project) of Everett, WA."

Not sure how current the info is, and there weren't any pics.

Todd
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DoraNineFan · **Joined:** Fri Aug 12, 2005 3:37 pm **Posts:** 672

The Me262 Project has a project section dedicated to this Bf 109 and another Bf 109 on their website. The current info consists of aircraft history and photos of the wreckage, but no information or updates on the restoration. I assume that any new updates will be added to this website. It does mention that one of the Bf 109s is for sale.

See the Bf 109 Project section on the Stormbirds website:
www.stormbirds.com

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

I don't believe they've even started on the restoration in Washington yet. One of our Seattle forum members (262crew or The Inspector) gave an update on it and said that only a few parts had been transferred from Colorado to Seattle. I get the impression that it may be quite a while before we see that airplane fly.

The Inspector · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:19 am

That would be up to Gordon and no one else to divulge that info...............

mike furline · **Joined:** Wed May 05, 2004 3:45 pm **Posts:** 2630

The Inspector wrote:

That would be up to Gordon and no one else to divulge that info...............

Didn't realize this was such a secret matter.

Anything else we shouldn't ask about it?

warbird1 · **Joined:** Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:25 pm **Posts:** 2760

mike furline wrote:

The Inspector wrote:

That would be up to Gordon and no one else to divulge that info...............

Didn't realize this was such a secret matter.

Anything else we shouldn't ask about it?

Of course, it's secret. It's not like he has a book or website with info on it. Oh wait a minute, he does......nevermind! :lol:

262crew · **Joined:** Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:24 pm **Posts:** 877

We have 10144,s tail section with the data plate still attached to the structure. There are a few bullet holes

in the rudder and vertical

we have also obtained a full set of production drawings

let me tell you it is so much easier to use the metric system :!:

Progress is slow due to other " things " happening right now at the project. But shhhhhhhhhhh I didnt say a thing :!:

gordonpagecolorado · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:04 am

10256 is at our Spirit of Flight Center museum in Colorado. In addition to 10144 in Everett, we also have Wrk. Nmr. 10145. The intent is to build up two- keep one and sell/trade the others. We are planning a new facility at Erie, Colorado Airport and will have 10256 on display there. Visit www.spiritofflight.com FMI. Sales of the Warbird Recovery book go to the restoration, so buy a bunch! Reviews of the book on Amazon are appreciated.

Enemy Ace · **Posted:** Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:26 pm

Thanks Mr. Page. When I first got the book I don't think the website offered all the info it does now. good luck with the museum.

Jason Langley · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:52 am

Does anyone know how many BF109s are flying or restored? Where?
What about the fw190?

Dan K · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:05 pm

Jason Langley wrote:

Does anyone know how many BF109s are flying or restored? Where?
What about the fw190?

Jason, you really must try the link posted above by gtokid. The preserved axis aircraft website will answer your questions and more. :wink:

Steve Nelson · **Posted:** Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:02 pm

Quote:

We are planning a new facility at Erie, Colorado Airport and will have 10256 on display there.

Is that Tri-County airport? I remember that was a neat place. Back in the early '80s I worked at a restaurant there made from an old Convair 990 (it's long since been scrapped.) That was at the hieght of the ultralight craze, and there were several dealers/instructors and a dedicated ultralight field on the airport, as well as a lot of homebuilts and some classic '50s and '60s vintage lightplanes on the ramp.

SN

gordonpagecolorado · **Posted:** Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:00 am

The old Tri-County (48V) is now Erie Municipal Airport (KEIK).

There are some amazing new homes at the airport and we are developing 58 acres on the West side (Fly-In Industrial).

Take a look at www.airassets.com under the properties link for more information on AZURE at Erie, CO Airport.

Unfortunately the old Convair restaurant went to pop can heaven... It was a really neat place. Does anyone have any photos???

Bluedharma · **Posted:** Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:53 pm

gordonpagecolorado wrote:

10256 is at our Spirit of Flight Center museum in Colorado.

Gordon I have got to find some time and go see your museum!

I saw that you are going to be at the Journeys Aviation and C.M.L.Air Limited Open House in Boulder,CO on May 10th.
http://www.pacificprowler.org/Boulder.html

Are you also going to be at the RMMA Open House on June 7th?
http://www.jeffco.us/airport/airport_T38_R76.htm
Regards,
Paul

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