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Found this post from a thread from another board. Any one have any information on this??

Have sidescan of P-40 in lake Can't Post

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Located P-40 in lake in a british columbia lake,canada resting in about 115 feet intact our funding ran out to recouver have photo on sidescan could be RCAF or USA in the same lake can't tell have a section look like broken up B-24 bomber


Thread link:

http://www.armyairforces.com/forums/gfo ... est=431547

To whom it might concern:

Here are the RCAF court of inquiry files for the appropriate serial numbers. They are held on microfilm at the National Archives of Canada in Ottawa. Here are the files for aircraft lost in western Canada.

Hope this helps,

Lee
Toronto

Holdings:
Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Volume 3274
File : 235-4-6 , Access code: 90
File Title: Flying Accidents - 5 Kittyhawk (111 Fighter Squadron) Flight from Cold Bay to Umnak, Alaska, 7-17-42
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Volume 3275
File : 235-4-8 , Access code: 90
File Title: Flying Accidents - Kittyhawk P40K1-245954 at III Squadron Headquarters, Kodrak, Alaska, February 20, 1943.
Outside Dates: 1943
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5929
File : 1100-7-23 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk IA (P-40E) - Serial ET 850.
Outside Dates: 1942-1943
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5929
File : 1100-7-24 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk IA (P-40E) - No. 724, Serial ET-852 (no photographs).
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5929
File : 1100-7-31 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk IA (P-40E) - No. 731 (no photographs).
Outside Dates: 1944
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5929
File : 1100-8-42 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk III (P-40M) - No. 842 (no photographs).
Outside Dates: 1944
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5929
File : 1100-8-76 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk IV (P-40N) - No. 876.
Outside Dates: 1945
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-32 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1032 (AK 791) (no photographs).
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-40 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk IE (P-40E) - No. 1040.
Outside Dates: 1942, 1944
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-46 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1046 (AK 869).
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-54 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1054 (AK 914),
Outside Dates: 1943
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-56 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1056 (AK 930) (no photographs).
Outside Dates: 1942-1943
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-59 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1059 (AK 987).
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-62 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1062 (AK 968).
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-71 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1071 (AL 109).
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-80 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1080 (AL 144).
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-81 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1081 (AL 150).
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-85 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1085 (AL 180) (no photographs).
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-87 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1087 (AL 194).
Outside Dates: 1943
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-93 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1093 (AL 218).
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-95 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1095 (AL 222).
Outside Dates: 1943
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-97 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1097 (AL 226) (no photographs).
Outside Dates: 1943
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5930
File : 1100-10-99 , Access code: 90
File Title: Curtiss Kittyhawk Mk I (P-40E) - No. 1099 (AL 228) (no photographs).
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5934
File : 1300-AK166-1 , Access code: 90
File Title: Kittyhawk Aircraft - Accident between Cold Bay and Umnak - S/L J.W. Kerwin, P/O E.W. Dean, F/Sgts. D.B. Gordon and F.R. Leonon and S/P S.R. Maxmen all missing
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5934
File : 1300-AK201-1 , Access code: 90
File Title: Kittyhawk Aircraft - Accident between Cold Bay and Umnak - S/L J.W. Kerwin, P/O E.W. Dean, F/S D.B. Gordon, F/S F.R. Lennon and S/P S.R. Maxmen all missing
Outside Dates: 1942
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5934
File : 1300-AK731 , Access code: 90
File Title: Kittyhawk Aircraft - Accident
Outside Dates: 1944
Finding Aid number: 24-100

Reference: RG24 , National Defence , Series E-1-b , Reel C-5934
File : 1300-AK851-1 , Access code: 90
File Title: Kittyhawk Aircraft - Accident at Fort Glenn Aerodrome, Alaska - P/O J.W. Tomlinson killed.
Outside Dates: 1943
Finding Aid number: 24-100

anybody ever heard of this or who posted it or just bs???

BS

From all the accident reports, both US and Canadian, no P-40 (or Hurricane) ended up in a lake during WWII in British Columbia.

Can't confirm if this is bs or not, but the rumour mill has it that there's a group out of the Vancouver area who claimed side scanned what looks to be a fighter in a lake somewhere in northern BC.

My guess is maybe they found a plane, but a fighter? I doubt it.

Brian

I've got a pretty good idea of the lake they're talking about. I've heard rumours of a P-40 up North.

In talking with a local historian up there it sounds like there was an account from a scuba diver (With no previous knowledge of airplanes) who was diving on the lake and came back saying he found an airplane down there, and he proceeded to describe a P-40 cockpit very well. The diver apparently is someone who is "not all there" so the claim could just be a fluke.

I think I remember someone mentioning that there is an account of a P-40 crashing in the lake too.

The same lake also had a large four engine bomber crash into it, most of it was recovered, but there is still some pieces there.

The only thing that doesn't jive is the depth of the mentioned lake. From my understanding the lake in which the P-40 is that I heard about, is no deeper than 80 ft.

I'd also been looking into the accident reports to see if there was any proof to the stories I'd heard, and in fact, the micro films are waiting for me at the library.

Does anyone know who the group is that's been doing the searching?

Cheers,

David

By the way, does anybody have a link to that thread that works?

http://forum.armyairforces.com/m_63672/ ... .htm#63672

I should also add B-17 and B-24 to the list of aircraft that never ended up in a lake in British Columbia.

Are you gonna try and make it to Geneseo this year Dave? All us P-40 nuts will be there.

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Ya know,

I'm going to try and get there, but darn, I need to find the time and the money to do it. It's a long drive (or bus ride) to get there... lol.

I've got my fingers crossed that I might be able to make it.

Maybe I can recover this P-40 from the lake and fix it up enough to ferry it there! hahaha... or maybe it would safer just to taxi it.

Cheers,

David

Well Dave,

You can always quit your day job and move out here in the East.

Its sucks for a P-40 fan to be out where your at. Genny is a world away from BC.

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If it is P-40's you are after there seem to be one or two still out there in the woods way up yonder, I'd try and find one of those rather than then underwater lead which is probably not true. Who knows what you might find in those north woods.

Very true, there are probably numerous airplanes scattered all around parts of BC, Alberta, the Yukon, and Alaska.

I'd love to have a P-40, but..... cough.... I don't think I've got the money to buy one. Nor do I have the money or time to go out and find one in the bush.

It would be interesting to go in search of the P-40 mentioned on WIX a little while back that is somewhere near Great Bear Lake. Does anyone know if it was a forced landing or a crash?

-David

I'm sure the next few years a few planes will be discovered up there...anybody know of one worth chasing...preferrably in a lake? I'm ready to go, the snows melting....

I'm sure the next few years a few planes will be discovered up there...anybody know of one worth chasing...preferrably in a lake? I'm ready to go, the snows melting....