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Cripes A Mighty
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My father took these pics back in July of 1968, I thought you guys might get a kick out of em. God Bless Paul Mantz and Frank Tallman for saving these birds. Certainly up there with Rienhart, Maloney etc.

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is the bipe a french nuiport?? hard to tell.

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tom d. friedman wrote:
is the bipe a french nuiport?? hard to tell.


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I think it's a Garland Lincoln LF-1, which is a heavily modified Nieuport 28 (or maybe even completely scratch built) with shorter wings than the stock version, as well as a radial engine replacing the original rotary. Two or three were built up for film work.

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tom d. friedman wrote:
is the bipe a french nuiport?? hard to tell.


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I think it's a modified Nieuport 28 with shorter wings.

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Which would be a Garland Lincoln?

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airnutz wrote:
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tom d. friedman wrote:
is the bipe a french nuiport?? hard to tell.


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I think it's a modified Nieuport 28 with shorter wings.

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Which would be a Garland Lincoln?


You are correct, sir! I had to do some quick research to confirm my suspicions.

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There was an ex- US Nieuport 28 that had shortened wings for film work in the inter-war period, was restored accurately in the UK in the 1980s(?) and flew for a while before ending up at Fort Rucker, grounded. Lovely, and d*mn noisy aeroplane. Suspect that's the same a/c. Never heard it referred to as a Garland Lincoln before, but we live and learn.

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The "N" struts between the upper and lower wings identify it as a Garland Lincoln, I don't believe the original N-28's were built in that configuration.

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Its a replica of a Neuport 28. This particular one crashed during the filming of The Great Waldo Pepper in 75 (?)
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Neat pics! I would have liked to toured that collection then. One of the real
jewels there is Mantz's Lockheed Orion..the former Doolittle bird..she still survives. :D

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I visited the museum in the same time frame (circa 1968) and took several pictures with a trusty Kodak 110 camera. Still looking for them, haven't seen them in 30 years, but still looking.
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I visited the museum in the same time frame (circa 1968) and took several pictures with a trusty Kodak 110 camera. Still looking for them, haven't seen them in 30 years, but still looking.
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Cripes A Mighty wrote:
Its a replica of a Neuport 28.

Precisely..Built by Claude Flagg for the movie stunt pilot Garland Lincoln in the 30's.
Do you remember this bird from a Twilight Zone episode? :wink: I think I've got this right, if
your photo is of N12237.

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JDK wrote:
There was an ex- US Nieuport 28 that had shortened wings for film work in the inter-war period, was restored accurately in the UK in the 1980s(?) and flew for a while before ending up at Fort Rucker

Dunno...she's listed on Aerovin's website as currently based at Santa Rosa, Calif
under the stewardship of Brent Mone. Check in the Tallmantz section..
www.aerovintage.com

The Rucker bird here..
www.airminded.net/n28/rucker/n28rucker.html

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... took several pictures with a trusty Kodak 110 camera. Still looking for them, haven't seen them in 30 years, but still looking.

Copy that Ober..I have quite a few 110 prints from back in the day, but given
what the 'puter whizz kids can do nowadays, I'd sure like to find my negatives! :roll:

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We went there and I have pictures.
But I was more interested in Knott's Berry Farm.
Being 4=5 can ya blame me :wink:

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