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bax101
 Post subject: holy bird strike
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this is one heck of a bird strike.

http://www.break.com/pictures/bird-thro ... 56759.html
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We had that happen to one of our C-130s, the wing spar stopped the vulture.
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Looks like the horizontal stab spar stopped that turkey vulture as well. :(

There's pictures on the web of a Bald Eagle that went through the nose of a C-130. It's amazing how much damage a bird can do to an airplane.
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Remember the big hole in the leading edge of Fuddy Duddy's wing after she hit a buzzard during a flypast at the Chino Air Show?

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yummy...... i'm off to kentucky fried chicken for a snack pack!!

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Had a goose penetrate the skin below the windshield on an MC-130H a few years back - very messy to clean.

Had a turkey vulture go through the center windshield on a C-130E a dozen or so years ago - if it hadn't been for the SKE scope on the dash, it probably would've taken out the FE!! One of only three documented penetrations of the center windshield on the C-130...

They can make a mess!!

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Kinda like this one on an IAF Blackhawk?

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image ... utside.jpg

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Have seen buzzards take out side windscreen on A-7D years ago, was during a flying competition. The judges allowed the pilot to change AC after docs cleared him (got hit in shoulder by bird guts), and he was able to finish the bomb mission for his points. The mess was everywhere inside, not to mention the week to replace the glass and let it cure before flight again. :o

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July 15th 1996. Belgian AF C-130 CH-06 crashed when all engines were taken out on landing by a flock of birds. 34 people died :(
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Birds are VERY dangerous around airports. The Belgian AF now has a falcon team to keep the birds away.

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July 15th 1996. Belgian AF C-130 CH-06 crashed when all engines were taken out on landing by a flock of birds. 34 people died
Birds are VERY dangerous around airports. The Belgian AF now has a falcon team to keep the birds away.

That simply defies belief. Must have been well early in the landing phase (ie - still a ways out from the airport)...a C-130 intake is only about 12" x 18" and has a 18" hunk of prop going by 68 times each second, so to ingest enough bird meat to cause all four engines to fail must have been, quite literally, thousands of birds. The Allison T56 is a very rugged engine and can take quite a bit of abuse (to include chewing up & spitting out birds).

Is there an accident report online somewhere I can read about this? Very curious...

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T2 Ernie wrote:
Fouga23 wrote:
July 15th 1996. Belgian AF C-130 CH-06 crashed when all engines were taken out on landing by a flock of birds. 34 people died
Birds are VERY dangerous around airports. The Belgian AF now has a falcon team to keep the birds away.

That simply defies belief. Must have been well early in the landing phase (ie - still a ways out from the airport)...a C-130 intake is only about 12" x 18" and has a 18" hunk of prop going by 68 times each second, so to ingest enough bird meat to cause all four engines to fail must have been, quite literally, thousands of birds. The Allison T56 is a very rugged engine and can take quite a bit of abuse (to include chewing up & spitting out birds).

Is there an accident report online somewhere I can read about this? Very curious...

http://www.nbdc.nl/cms/show/id=140411
seems 3 engines lost power, sorry.

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http://www.nbdc.nl/cms/show/id=140411
seems 3 engines lost power, sorry.

Thanks for the link - interesting reading. It appears either there was no FDR/DFDR/CVR or the information was not released. There is a LOT of speculation in that very cursory report.

Would like to know more details...the few related in the "report" leave more questions than answers.

At Eindhoven (9000' runway @ sea level), I would have aborted any go-around attempt if I truly lost power on three engines & simply landed...easy to do in a Hercules even after initiating a go-around, but it's not a pilot's first instinct...

I believe there is much more to this story than related in the report...

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This topic reminded me of pictures that were floating around a couple of years ago of a Baron that had most of its roof ripped off by a birdstrike. I googled it and up came the photos, along with the real description that it was the result of a mid-air instead. Pretty sobering: http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/birdshot.asp
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