Warbird Information Exchange

I think I'm going to need both an extended wing and folded wing version of the TBM.

As far as transient aircraft...who knows? We'll just use the models we've got or just work around them. We don't get transients often, and if we do, it's only for a day or so normally.

And Mr. Widgeon...that is some pretty slick work you're doing on that C-131. Pretty clever.

Gary

Coming from you Sir, that's a high complement indeed.
I hope it serves the purpose.
The wing will be too wide in chord making the nose too short but I can't think of a way to correct that without rebuilding the entire wing.
It will scale out the right size in span and length though.
And don't look for props or kit landing gear.
Those fiddley bits will get broken off in short order.
Gear on most of the ones I'm doing will be made from wire or wood screws.

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Gary

no problem, so far there is both a folded and extended wing TBM spoken for on the list, with another folded one up for grabs if needed. And I'll try to figure out a way to do a strong practical fold, but I'm not holding my breath.


cheers

greg v.

[quote="gregvAnd I'll try to figure out a way to do a strong practical fold, but I'm not holding my breath.[/quote]

I've been trying to think of a good way in my head as well but nothing yet to make it strong. I'll let you know if my brain starts working. I think it's frozen right now. Brrrr...

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For those of you who might be looking for something inexpensive before you volunteer, I’ve found a few on this website:

http://www.rare-planedetective.com/

Check the following model numbers
Model kit # price
B-25 1100 $9
P-51 101 $4
Stearman 4116 $10
Beech C-45 no kit #. It’s listed in the “Rs” under “Rareplanes vacuforms” $4
C-47 1151 $12
B-17 PK603 $14
B-17 H201 $14
Val 1227 $6

I also found:
AT-6/SNJ and Kate on Megahobby.com $6.95 each
C-46 on Hobbylinc.com for $23.89

I’ll keep an eye on the AVAILABLE listing for a while and if there are any of these just sitting there, I’ll get a few more to do.

Mudge the researcher

ps. Obviously, us retired guys don’t have to be anywhere

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I've been trying to think of a good way in my head as well but nothing yet to make it strong. I'll let you know if my brain starts working. I think it's frozen right now. Brrrr...[/quote]

The only thing I can think of is a miniature version of the real thing, which IIRC is basically just the spar hinged at an angle as opposed to being hinged vertically. I am trying to remember how the old 1/48 Monogram Hellcat & Avenger did it, as they had practical folds; I seem to recall that they were fragile and finicky....

Mudge, I've had good luck trolling the shelves of my local hobby shop; I found most of the single engine types for about $10 Canadian. Guess I'm lucky to have a LHS in my area though.

As far as the Tora Vals and Kates go, how close dimensionally are they to the aircraft that they are emulating? I've been wondering about that for a while now. I guess nobody has ever made a kit of the Tora replicas?

cheers!

greg v.

Hey, I found a PT-13 in the stash, do we still need more?

You bet!

I updated the list yesterday to reflect the need for multiple types, and it now has, for instance, four AT-6/SNJ's listed, and three PT-13/17's etc etc.

I'll put you down for the second of three PT-13/17's.

thanks!

gerg v.

TBM wing fold idea? Epoxy the wings in folded position, when the epoxy kicks, drill a small hole thu the wing outer panel upper skin and on thru the fuselage (about 1/8th inch sized hole) and insert an epoxy coated bamboo skewer stick, nip off the ends and sand down flush-used the same idea in reverse when I converted an old 1/32nd scale REVELL F4U-1 into the XF4U prototype for a friend about 25 years ago, and needed to beat the kits 39 G pullout look with the wings extended, two skewers, one inside the leading edge and one down the rear spar area did just fine. Mr. Widgeon can vouch for how that worked out

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Hi 2,
It's not just folding the wings but making an operating folding wing, das'da problem.

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Inspector

great idea, I did something similar on the Hellcat, except I used sprue rods instead of bamboo skewers, plus lots of gap-filling super glue.



But as Mr. Widgeon points out, a working fold is the question here; I get the feeling, though, that it might be more hassle than it is worth.

thanks for the input!

cheers

greg v.

I found another T-6, the Kate and a Val.
Also have a C-45 and AT-11 if you need them.

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Mr. Widgeon

awesome, I have confirmed you for:

-T-6/SNJ
-C-45
-Kate
-Val

Question for you, though, regarding the C-45 and the AT-11; are these not both basically a Beech 18? I hope so, because I lumped the C-45,AT-11,JRB,SNB etc. all under the "Beech 18" heading...

Anyways, if that is correct, and you do have both a C-45 and an AT-11, then both could be used, but I only have you down so far for one, i.e. the C-45.

How's the DC-6 > C-131 coming?


Gary

As far as the Tora Kates & Vals go, I have two questions:

1) how many of each in the CAF inventory, and how many of each as a model would be handy? Just a couple?

2) how does the size compare to the respective originals, or is it anything to worry about in this scale?

If it matters, for reference (numbers rounded):

Aichi D3A "Val": span 47'-2", length 33'-5", height 12'-7"

Nakajima B5N "Kate": span 50'-11", length 33'-9.5", height 12'-2"

(stock BT-13: span 42'-0", length 28'-10", height 11'-6")
(stock AT-6/SNJ/Harvard: span 42'-7", length 29'-0", height 12'-9")


thanks all

greg v.

Howdy 1-
I certainly don't see why two or more Turkeys couldn't be built, one closed up and the other wide open, seems like theres plenty of demand for multiples of others.
Do you realize how much work I put into that C-45's paint job? Oh, well they are for a good cause and I did give 'em to you. (this is an inside joke between two 35 years fellow modellers who are best friends)

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Greg, I don't have the number of Kates & Vals in the CAF in front of me right now, but I would think that only a couple of each would be sufficient for this project. I'm not sure that the minor difference in dimensions between the original Japanese aircraft and our replicas will make that much of a difference, so whatever we get we'll be happy with.

Gary