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The Cabot getting cut up was truely a disgraceful shame.

More pictures of her can be found here including interior spaces.

http://www.usscabot.com/

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I guess I really didn't know the whole story(and perhaps still don't) of the Mishandling of the Cabot. Alot of people want to point fingers at the scrapper but it seems to me that the U.S.S. Cabot-Dedalo Museum Foundation is to blame.


It seems to me this all could have been avoided.


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I. FACTS AND PROCEEDINGS

The Cabot was the last remaining light aircraft carrier (CVL) that saw service in the Pacific Theater during World War II. After the war, the Navy used the Cabot for training, decommissioned her, mothballed her, and first lent and then sold her to Spain, which renamed her the Dedalo. In 1989, the U.S.S. Cabot Dedalo Museum Foundation, Inc. (the "Foundation"), a non-profit corporation, acquired the Cabot and moved her to New Orleans, with a view to establishing an on-board museum and docking her permanently in Kenner, Louisiana. The Foundation removed the Cabot's screws, winterized her engines, and stripped the ship of most of her operational equipment.

By 1993, the Foundation had moored the unmanned Cabot on the east bank of the Mississippi in New Orleans, at the Press Street Wharf (the "Wharf"), which is owned by the Board of Commissioners of the Port of New Orleans (the "Dock Board"), a state agency. After the mayor of Kenner withdrew the offer of a mooring site for the Cabot museum, the Dock Board requested that the Foundation either move the ship from the Wharf or begin to pay dockage fees, which the Dock Board had previously waived. In March 1994, the Dock Board sued to evict the Cabot from the Wharf. As of April 1996, however, the Cabot was still moored at the Wharf.

In that month, Captain G.D. Marsh of the United States Coast Guard, the Captain of the Port of New Orleans, wrote to inform the Foundation "that the dilapidated condition of the wharf and the unsatisfactory condition of the vessel's moorings pose an immediate threat to the safety of the port," given the approach of hurricane season. Exercising his authority under 33 U.S.C. Chapter 25 to ensure the safety of the Port, Captain Marsh ordered the Foundation to move the Cabot to a safer berth by the first of June.

The Foundation did nothing, so Captain Marsh wrote again, this time stating that he "plan[ned] to pursue a civil penalty" against the Foundation and that the Coast Guard would thereafter "conduct all response activities" under 33 U.S.C. § 1321(c)(1) ---- a provision of the Federal Water Pollution Control Act ("FWPCA") ---- including stabilization, threat abatement, and oil and hazardous material removal. Captain Marsh added that the Coast Guard would invoice the Foundation for expenses incurred in these activities, whereupon the Foundation filed for protection in bankruptcy. In July, Captain Marsh informed the Foundation that the Coast Guard had removed chemical drums and some oil from the Cabot and had upgraded her mooring at the Wharf by installing hurricane moorings. He ordered the Foundation to continue monitoring the Cabot's moor.

Almost a year later, as the bulk carrier M/V Tomis Future was steaming downriver, her pilot brought her too close to the east bank, and she allided(1) with the Cabot, substantially damaging both the Cabot and the Wharf. The owner of the Tomis Future called out emergency response tugs to berth that vessel and to secure the Cabot against the Wharf. After Commander Daniel Whiting, the Coast Guard's Chief of Port Operations, inspected the damage, the Coast Guard again became concerned for the safety of the Cabot's moor, particularly because the Mississippi was running high. Three days after the allision, Captain Marsh issued another order under 33 U.S.C. Chapter 25, requiring the Foundation to hire a tug to stand by the Cabot and, within three days, to move the Cabot "to a safe hurricane mooring site" or a "robust hurricane mooring location." The next day, the owner of the Tomis Future took his tugs off hire and his vessel departed the port (without posting adequate security).

The Foundation did not call out a tug of its own, so Captain Marsh immediately notified the Foundation that the Coast Guard "assumed responsibility for providing the assist tug to properly maintain the safety of the vessel." He also wrote that the Coast Guard did so "in accordance with 33 USC 1321(c)" and that it would seek reimbursement under 33 U.S.C. § 1321(f), both referenced subsections being provisions of the FWPCA. Under this authority, the Coast Guard hired tugs to stand by the Cabot for seven weeks, at the end of which Captain Marsh again wrote to the Foundation, advising that the Coast Guard had completed preparations "to move the vessel to a safe hurricane mooring" under the authority of 33 U.S.C. § 1321(c). The Coast Guard then shifted the Cabot from the Wharf to Violet, Louisiana, some forty miles downstream. This move (including the seven weeks' tug service, at about $5,000 per day, and post-allision repairs to the moor) cost the Coast Guard and the National Pollution Funds Center(2) $500,868.94.

In October of that year (1997), the Cabot made a dead-ship move from Violet to Port Isabel, Texas. At approximately the same time, the Foundation sold the Cabot. Under contract with the new owner, Marine Salvage provided wharfage and security services to the ship in Port Isabel. Later, when the Cabot began to list in her berth, Marine Salvage acted to prevent her from capsizing, at a cost of $20,908.00.

The following year, Marine Salvage and others sued the Cabotin rem in the Southern District of Texas. Several months later, the government sued the Cabot, also in rem. The Cabot was arrested both times, but was released when those suits were dismissed.

The government again sued the Cabot in 1999, and the district court for the Southern District of Texas arrested the Cabot for a third time. Other claimants intervened, including (1) the Dock Board, which sought in rem enforcement of an in personam judgment against the Foundation rendered by the district court for the Eastern District of Louisiana; and (2) Marine Salvage, which sought to recover on both a salvage lien and a lien for necessaries. The district court in Texas authorized the U.S. Marshal to auction the Cabot. At the marshal's sale, a shipwrecker bid and subsequently paid $185,000 for the Cabot, about half of which was paid to its substitute custodian and to the U.S. Marshals Service, leaving $91,250.68 (plus interest) to be distributed to other claimants. The government, Marine Salvage, and the Dock Board asserted lien claims to the funds that remained in the registry of the district court. Following a trial to determine the priority and amounts of the liens, the district court held that Marine Salvage had a valid salvage lien of $20,908.00 with priority over a valid salvage lien of the government, which in turn was entitled to the balance of $70,342.68 that would remain in the court's registry after paying Marine Salvage. As the government's salvage lien exhausted the deposited funds, the district court did not evaluate the merits or priorities of the $56,872.39 lien for necessaries asserted by Marine Salvage or the $399,685.48 lien for necessaries asserted by the Dock Board. This appeal followed.



In Spanish service. She was truely a rare find to have been maintained unitl 1989.
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Now in New Orleans with a fresh coat of paint:
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And her eventual fate towed into a breaker's slip in TX:

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These pictures and the story can be found here:

http://www.bobhenneman.info/cabot.htm

I think the Cabot foundation's first down fall was not having a good funding program in place. Followed on be their lack of action.

If I'm wrong someone please correct me.

A big lesson to be learned here at an even larger cost

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Thanks Shay.

This reminds me of the several near saves she had. She had been granted several brief reprieves along the way, yet all of the efforts to save her were a day late and a dollar short. It seems that the warship saturation point of the general public was just beginning to manifest itself (several discussions on this at www.bobhenneman.info/forum ).

What a sad, sad end for a WWII combat veteran.

Thankfully, the exact opposite is true with Warbirds. Numerous combat veterans are actively being sought out, resurrected and (in some cases) being restored for the public's enjoyment as well as for the education of future generations.

My hat is off to those on this forum who are actively involved in the restoration, maintenance and care of these historical artifacts.

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Pretty much everything that happened to the Cabot could be summed up in a book "How Not To Save a Warship".

On the other hand, if you want to see an organization that has their stuff together, check out the USS Forrest Sherman folks. These folks are definitely in it for the long haul...and it looks like their patience and persistence is going to pay off.

http://www.ussforrestsherman.org

A Forrest Sherman class destroyer is a far cry from a straight deck carrier, but at least these people aren't bungling the opportunity to save their ship.


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What happened to the 40mm and the 20mm from the ship? Were they snappped up by other museums?


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Several of the guns and other salvageable pieces from the Cabot made their way to the USS Lexington, on display in Corpus Christi (~ 160 miles north). The website for the "Lady Lex" is www.usslexington.com .

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I was only aware of the guns that went to the Texas Air Museum in Rio Hondo (don't know what became of them after John Huston passed away and the museum closed its doors). It makes a lot of sense that the Lexington would have gotten some too (and I'm glad to hear that they did).

When I was aboard her, the 40mm armament was complete, but there was no sign of any 20mm guns or their mounts. I was lead to believe that the light calibre weapons had been removed from the ship sometime during her Spanish service.


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Was anything else saved?


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great photo perspective!!

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Wasn't the island of the Cabot taken to that museum in Rio Hondo? I thought it, along with the island of the USS Iwo Jima were saved somewhere.

I had the opportunity to see the Cabot in 1997 in New Orleans. She looked great from pier side. There's only one Cleveland-class cruiser hull left now, the USS Little Rock, in Buffalo.

Great photos of a very historic ship.

FYI: The USS Forrestal museum has given up on its efforts to save that ship, so it will likely be sunk like the USS America. The Ranger is slated to be taken to Portland, Oregon, and the Saratoga is slated to be a museum in Jacksonville, I think.

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Last Day Standing

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Uss Cabot's Island:

Not pretty.

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I saw her in Rota, Spain in 1979 and was truly in awe. For some reason
more than the Missouri.

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I still can't believe the USN let the last of the straight deck carriers go.....



....but then they did;

1. nuke the Sara

2. cut up ENT


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Wow -- still hurts (though I'm glad to know what happened).

I wonder if any of the other Cabot items at Rio Hondo were saved (like the 40mm AA guns, the section of flight deck, or the pilot's ready room)?

I suppose they were forced to demo the tower from USS Iwo Jima as well?


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