Warbird Information Exchange

Dang I was hoping this thread would progress further as I am fascinated with this conversation. Both side of the argument have merit. I am proud to be a member here at WIX and see that we have some very intelligent and vocal members.

Counting myself out as one of the more intelligent ones here, if we are going to go back in history to look at atrocities, why not look at what our military leaders did to the American Indians? Or, when the revolution was taking place, guerilla style tactics were the norm.

War is Hell and it is ugly. No one knows how they will react until face to face with the dealer of death. Atrocities in any form commited by anyone is wrong, but it does seem that to the victor of any war, less attention is paid for crimes comitted.

That is my one cents worth...now back to the WARbirds

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Earn my respect and never lose it.
Demand my respect and never gain it. -Me

...just another plane dreamer.

The statement was made without qualification, meaning -- soldiers are thugs -- which I heavily object to.



No, I am referring to incidents in Mogadishu in '93, plus numerous incidents in Iraq and Afghanistan. I have personally witnessed this scenario -- a burkha-wearer shooting with an AK-47 at NATO troops -- in Afghanistan.

This post started out with specific incident about shooting Japanese troops in the water. I was reading a book about the RAF and one pilot was transfered to Pacific and was ordered to strafe Japanese troops in invasion barges. He did it, but was sort of sickened with the affect that the eight guns in a Hurricane had on defenseless bodies. He had attacked German troops on land, but they always had someplace to hide or at least try to get away. In this book there was no big moral debate, rather just the personal feeling.

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Bill Greenwood
Spitfire N308WK

Innocence is a good thing, Randy. As insulted as I get, I try hard to remember that their innocence was bought at my expense. That they can call me a thug, or worse, is at my expense. I wouldn't have it any other way. It an honor, in an odd way.

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"I knew the jig was up when I saw the P-51D-20-NA Mustang blue-nosed bastards from Bodney, and by the way the blue was more of a royal blue than an indigo and the inner landing gear interiors were NOT green, over Berlin."

Yes, it happened. They also used kids as shields, with results being what you would expect. I did not ask to go there, I was asked to go there. And when I was presented with situations which were not of my making, I was forced to deal with them. That I live with the results today, 15 years later, should say something about my status as a "thug".

But I do unde4rstand what was meant. Was are started by thugs. It's up to us who ends them.

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"I knew the jig was up when I saw the P-51D-20-NA Mustang blue-nosed bastards from Bodney, and by the way the blue was more of a royal blue than an indigo and the inner landing gear interiors were NOT green, over Berlin."

"Thugs killing thugs". I take deep offense from that statement. I am a twenty seven year veteran of the US Army. I am not a thug. I don't have a criminal record. I don't have any kind of record. I was a Life Scout in the Boy Scouts. An adult leader. I have done my fair share to help my fellow man.

I am not a thug.

Sgt Joseph M. Kendall