Since everyone is here, I have a request

[AIRIC]

"Captn Midnight" I remember it well from some of the 80s CWH shows. The aircraft and pilot were lost at a show in Michigan if I remember right.

Eric

[O.P.]

Thanks everyone! A couple three questions...

dj51d: It looks like the damage on the RC cola bird was done by a cable or chain used to lift it in place. The stars and bars have wear towards the aft end also.

Dan Johnson II: RF80As, recon version? I notice the lack of guns on the front. I need to study more, it's just too easy to get the info from you guys!

mrhenniger: Is the Grissom Air Park a military or public institution, museum? Or is that bird just laying on the ground at a local airport?

AIRIC: If I ever have a Canadair bird, it will be painted like the 6th picture down. Very nice.

Thanks again everyone, keep em coming!

[crystal lakes]

crystal lakes t-33, cf 700 turbofan
Mike

[airnutz]

dj51d, yeah, I agree with O.P. looks like they were using an un-choked
cable during one of their lifts....and it got away from them.
From 10-2 o'clock on the insignia telegraphs the angles the '33 suffered.
Looks like at 1 point it spun on its axis...and another it pitched nose down.
I wonder what the leading edge of the wing looks like near the intakes?
Lucky they didn't knock the nose off of it!

I used to on-load torpedoes from a Tender crane...and I definitely did not
need "this" kind of day!!! Later on in life I felt the same kind of avoidances
with steel trusses or concrete tilt-walls.

[O.P.]

dj51d, yeah, I agree with O.P. looks like they were using an un-choked
cable during one of their lifts....and it got away from them.
From 10-2 o'clock on the insignia telegraphs the angles the '33 suffered.
Looks like at 1 point it spun on its axis...and another it pitched nose down.
I wonder what the leading edge of the wing looks like near the intakes?
Lucky they didn't knock the nose off of it!

I used to on-load torpedoes from a Tender crane...and I definitely did not
need "this" kind of day!!! Later on in life I felt the same kind of avoidances
with steel trusses or concrete tilt-walls.

Hi airnutz!
It sounds like you were on a boat. If you were, what one were you on? The thought of a mk48 getting squirrely like that gives me the willies.

O.P.
SSN 697
SSN 578
SSN 725 (Precomm)
SSN 674
SSN 660 (Yards)

Me no likey weapons loading, no smoking and gotta sit on the phones all day.

[dj51d]

I wonder what the leading edge of the wing looks like near the intakes?

I went back and examined all of my photos of this aircraft, and indeed, there is some damage to the leading edge of the right wing at the wing root, though not near as much as to the tail.

[airnutz]

Yeah O.P., a "squirrely fish" was something we definitely didn't need! Only
in my time, it was the Mk 45 I worried about. If I dropped the "Nuke Fish"
there was really no major danger...I mean, What is a little tritium leakage
between friends??? But it was the Nuc/Weaps/Qual guys, that made one
antsy! We only had to worry bout it a few months...we qualified with it
to satisfy some egg-head...and then it was gone...good riddance!!!

I see one of your boats was the Skate... The North Pole Sitters...several
times! The Skate was almost the same age as SS-573 Salmon..my boat...
www.usssalmon.org

Twin sister(almost)..Sailfish SS 572
here's one of her cutting a pretty bow-wake...all 4 supercharged Fairbanks
Morse Diesels...."Blowin' and Goin' "
www.warships.de/html/sailfish.shmtl

You guys had showers more often...daily, or hourly may I venture to
surmise?..but we had "swim calls" and a Bar-B-Que pit built into the forward deck..life has its compensations!

Addenda edit...
Thanx O.P., but I went for one tour..when the "DB's"
were exiting..so was I. I got too used to fresh air and salt-spray. I salute
you and your extnsive time spent in the "glow-in-the-dark business office".

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[O.P.]

Yeah O.P., a "squirrely fish" was something we definitely didn't need! Only
in my time, it was the Mk 45 I worried about. If I dropped the "Nuke Fish"
there was really no major danger...I mean, What is a little tritium leakage
between friends??? But it was the Nuc/Weaps/Qual guys, that made one
antsy! We only had to worry bout it a few months...we qualified with it
to satisfy some egg-head...and then it was gone...good riddance!!!

I see one of your boats was the Skate... The North Pole Sitters...several
times! The Skate was almost the same age as SS-573 Salmon..my boat...
www.usssalmon.org

Twin sister(almost)..Sailfish SS 572
here's one of her cutting a pretty bow-wake...all 4 supercharged Fairbanks
Morse Diesels...."Blowin' and Goin' "
www.warships.de/html/sailfish.shmtl

You guys had showers more often...daily, or hourly may I venture to
surmise?..but we had "swim calls" and a Bar-B-Que pit built into the forward deck..life has its compensations!

I remember being a 17 yo non-qual dink on my first boat, and there was a couple of DBF old school chiefs, MMC, TMCS, on there that told me about mk45's. It sounded like the equivalent of a nuke hand grenade. We had one kinda like that, the Subroc. One thing about tritium though, when I finally got a bunky out of the torpedo room, after a year and a half of getting zapped by lenny and squiggy, they put me in after berthing, right next to the tritium detector, If I hear a buzzing sound like that, even today, I start to get really sleepy.

As far as showers go, its all Hollywood baby, everyday, well not Hollywood, but at least you could take a shower, except for the Skate. If you missed your shower time this week, TS, wait till next week. Better hope you weren't bilge diving.....we had some real stinky A-Gangers.....along with everyone else.

It's good to meet another Boat Sailor here, especially a DBF'er. I'm all Nuc Fast Attack. That said, doing warbird stuff beats the hell out of riding a boat any day of the week. Good to meet you Sir!

[wendovertom]

T-33 based here in Wendover



Tom P

[HELLDIVERS]

TOM IS THIS T-33 CANADIAN OR U,S, BUILT?THANKS MIKE

[Shay]

Speaking of T-33s. Is anyone aware of a T-33 that was located at Youngstown AFRES Base? Also known as Warren Regional Airport. I noticed this aircraft in the mid '90s. It was located towards the end of the runway off to the side almost in the grass in a deteriating condition. I'll have to find some of the pictures I took of it. If remember correctly it was in USAF markings. Either bare metal or painted overall light gray (I'm leaning towards the gray). The tail markings were some sort of a insignia of a knight and a green lightning bolt on the wingtip tanks. For some reason I recall maybe "49th TFS" but I could be wrong. It might have had something about a training command mentioned on the tail, but don't quote me on this. Well turns out that in either 95 or 96 the USAFM (back then) heard about the derelict T-33. Shortly there after the aircraft disappeared. There might not be a connection, but you never know. As far as I know it was never a gate guard there at the 910TH. Does anyone recall or heard of this Bird? Would be interesting to see what happened her. Thanks

Shay

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[DanteC]

Here's a pic my dad took at Forbes Field, Topeka, Kansas. Not sure of the year, likely around '90. Sorry the T-Bird is not the focal point, but what the hell.
-Dante

[wendovertom]

Mike,

It and it's stable mate are both Canadian planes (so I'm told). The owner prefers the Canadian engine set up over the U.S. ones. I'll see if I can't dig up a few more photos of the two planes.

Tom P.
www.wendoverairbase.com

[TimAPNY]

Here is a shot I took in 1997 at the NAS Lemoore airshow in CA. I have no idea any information on whose it was or what the Buno # is. (does the USAF have buno numbers?). But she was the most pretty T-33 I have ever seen!

http://community.webshots.com/photo/167 ... 9331nNkmnA

[Don Martin]

Shay,
That sounds like a Dow AFB bird. I know when the 49th FIS was stationed here in the 40's and 50's, they flew T-33As along with F-80s, F-86Fs, F86Ds, a C-47 and a T-6G! Suppose that could have been an Air Defence Command badge on the tail? It also may have been marked as a Hanscom AFB Mass, bird as that's where the 49th went from Maine. The 49th is known as the Black Knights and is now the 49th FTS. I think Randy Haskins may know something about them.
Don