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Does anyone have any current info about F-14A "Miss Molly" It is BU number 161622 and served as NL 200 It flew with VF-111. I am trying to see if there is anyway to save some of her, if not all for a display, but the Navy Museum is being of their normal usefullness.

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Chris Henry
EAA Aviation Museum Director

F-14A-125-GR

BuNo. 161622, Modex: AB-114, CN: 481, Last Sqd: VF-211

Struck of Charge: 17 Dec 2003,

Fate: Scrapped at NAS Oceana, VA on 13 Oct 2003.


Shay
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Semper Fortis

Ouch! That sucks. I am not sure why the NMNA wouldn't have wanted to save that one. Well, thanks for the info.

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Chris Henry
EAA Aviation Museum Director

Can you tell us the significance of this particular F-14?

Thanks!

--Tom

She was a CAG bird with the Sundowners. I don't know a ton about her, but seen pics of her. She had a pin up painted on the side of the fuselage along with the name.

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Chris Henry
EAA Aviation Museum Director

The only thing I know--and it could just be hearsay, is that "Miss Molly" was an actual nurse to Carl Vinson (or was it John Stennis??) and somehow that is significant. But that's all I've ever heard.

--Tom

Here's a picture of Miss Molly



Shay
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Semper Fortis

I copied this off the Zotz decals page:

"F-14A-125-GR 161621 (TARPS) In 2 December of 1989 "Miss Molly" previously adorned a C-1A COD assigned to the USS Carl Vinson. It was named in honor of Miss Molly Snead, the nurse who cared for Senator Vinson's wife. When the C-1A was retired, Lt. Mark Conn, an artist, kept the tradition alive on this VF-111's CAG bird. This preview features the 1/48 decal sheet."

--Tom

I was trying to save the art work off of it at least.

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Chris Henry
EAA Aviation Museum Director

Most likely been gone for years

Shay
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Semper Fortis

I wonder if there is any way to contact Mark Conn to see if there is a way that he would reproduce it for me.

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Chris Henry
EAA Aviation Museum Director

you have somewhere to hang and 8'x5' wall piece?

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"I knew the jig was up when I saw the P-51D-20-NA Mustang blue-nosed bastards from Bodney, and by the way the blue was more of a royal blue than an indigo and the inner landing gear interiors were NOT green, over Berlin."

"Normal usefullness" ???? Come on now Mustangdriver....I
won't tell you I agree with every decision NMNA has ever made.
I won't tell you there weren't some things I wish they'd do
differently, but if there is ONE thing they do right it's share
aircraft with other museums. The F-14 is a case in particular.


From what I read "Miss Molly" was probably painted over
long before she was scrapped. I wish it was otherwise, just
as I wish the nose art of the scrapped F-14s at AMARC had
been saved. But don't down NMNA for not saving "Miss Molly"
if she was struck in Dec. of 2003. No one has done more to
perpetuate the legacy of the Tomcat than NMNA. Below is a
list of F-14s on loan to various institutions around the country.
Imagine how much it cost to transport those birds to a museum
near you. I know I like to just touch the one at Battleship Park
outside Mobile, AL as well as the ones in Pensacola. Let's be fair.



ACCESSNUM BORROWER DESIGNAT ACBNUM
1997.235.001 FLEET AREA CONTROL AND SURV FACILITY F-14A 160401
1997.062.001 PALM SPRINGS AIR MUSEUM F-14A 160898
1997.063.001 MID-AMERICA AIR MUSEUM F-14A 160903
1995.348.001 DEFENSE SUPPLY CENTER RICHMOND F-14A 159853
2002.005.001 QUONSET AIR MUSEUM F-14A 162591
1996.364.001 SOUTHERN CA HISTORICAL AVIATION FOUND F-14A 159830
1996.326.001 AIR VICTORY MUSEUM F-14A 158998
2007.003.001 WINGS OVER THE ROCKIES F-14A 159829
2002.059.001 AIRCRAFT CARRIER HORNET FOUNDATION F-14A 162689
1995.056.001 SAN DIEGO AIRCRAFT CARRIER MUSEUM F-14A 158978
1997.309.001 VALIANT AIR COMMAND F-14A 161134
1997.336.001 PORT OF TILLAMOOK BAY F-14A 159848
1997.312.001 EMPIRE STATE AEROSCIENCES MUSEUM F-14A 160411
1998.073.001 AMERICAN AIRPOWER HERITAGE MUSEUM F-14A 160403
1998.095.001 TULSA AIR AND SPACE MUSEUM, INC F-14A 161598
2001.252.001 NAES LAKEHURST F-14A 160658
2000.069.001 NAS ATLANTA F-14A 160909
1997.023.001 NATIONAL WARPLANE MUSEUM F-14A 161605
1994.139.001 NAS JRB FORT WORTH F-14A 158999
1994.015.001 NAVAL TEST WING ATLANTIC F-14A 161623
1994.051.001 NAVAL TEST WING ATLANTIC F-14A 162595
1995.053.001 NAS FALLON F-14A 159626
1994.156.001 U. S. SPACE AND ROCKET CENTER F-14A 160661
1995.249.001 PACIFIC COAST AIR MUSEUM F-14A 160889
1994.180.001 PIMA AIR AND SPACE MUSEUM F-14A 160684
1994.155.001 USS LEXINGTON MUSEUM ON THE BAY F-14A 160694
1995.221.001 MARCH FIELD MUSEUM FOUNDATION F-14A 157990
1994.132.001 NAVAL BASE VENTURA COUNTY F-14A 158623
1995.115.001 NAS OCEANA F-14A 159445
1994.149.001 PATRIOTS PT NAVAL & MARITIME MUSEUM F-14A 159025
1994.218.001 SAN DIEGO AEROSPACE MUSEUM F-14A 159631
1994.223.001 CRADLE OF AVIATION MUSEUM F-14A 157982
1994.224.001 INTREPID SEA-AIR-SPACE MUSEUM F-14A 157986
1995.326.001 KALAMAZOO AVIATION HISTORY MUSEUM F-14A 160395
1999.316.001 TEXAS AIR MUSEUM CAPROCK CHAPTER F-14A 160391
1999.287.001 NAS JRB WILLOW GROVE F-14A 160386
1995.052.001 NAF EL CENTRO F-14A 159620
2007.001.001 CITY OF WAKEENEY F-14A 160925
1998.329.001 WESTERN AEROSPACE MUSEUM F-14A 160666
2005.151.001 NAF ATSUGI JAPAN F-14A 161141
2002.077.001 USS ALABAMA BATTLESHIP COMMISSION F-14A 161611
2006.025.001 KENNER NAVAL MUSEUM COMMISSION F-14A 159629
2006.116.001 SUN 'N FUN FLY-IN INC F-14A 159619
2006.118.001 OV-10 BRONCO ASSOCIATION INC F-14A 159600
2006.127.001 WILLMAR MUNICIPAL AIRPORT F-14A 160914
2004.072.001 NAS JACKSONVILLE F-14A 161863
2005.134.001 SELFRIDGE MILITARY AIR MUSEUM F-14A 161620
1998.006.001 TOWN OF RIVERHEAD F-14A 160902
2003.288.001 COMBAT AIR MUSEUM F-14A 161615
2003.285.001 SOUTHERN MUSEUM OF FLIGHT F-14A 162608
2003.290.001 RONALD REAGAN PRESIDENTIAL FOUNDATION F-14A 162592
2003.281.001 VFW POST 7293 F-14A 158617
2004.088.001 NAVICP PHILADELPHIA F-14A 159448
2001.284.001 MUSEUM OF FLIGHT F-14A 160382
2006.152.001 RICHARD J GROSS POST #8896 F-14A 162916
2005.166.001 AVIATION MUSEUM OF KENTUCKY INC F-14B 161860
2004.210.001 ESTRELLA WARBIRD MUSEUM F-14B 162911
2005.063.001 DELAND NAVAL AIR STATION MUSEUM INC F-14B 161426
2005.046.001 HERITAGE MUSEUM FOUNDATION F-14B 162912
2004.196.001 NAS KEY WEST F-14B 162910
2005.038.001 NAS WILDWOOD FOUNDATION F-14B 161422
2005.041.001 NEW ENGLAND AIR MUSEUM F-14B 162926
2005.165.001 MILITARY AVIATION PRESERVATION SOCIETY F-14B 162694
2006.117.001 VIRGINIA AVIATION MUSEUM F-14D 164346
2006.080.001 EVERGREEN AVIATION MUSEUM F-14D 164343
2004.178.001 NAS OCEANA F-14D 164604
2006.124.001 WINGS OVER MIAMI MUSEUM, INC F-14D 164342
2006.125.001 PACIFIC AVIATION MUSEUM PEARL HARBOR F-14D 163904
2006.126.001 CITY OF PALMDALE F-14D 164350
2006.136.001 CITY OF HICKORY F-14D 163902
2006.040.001 PRAIRIE AVIATION MUSEUM F-14D 161163
2006.039.001 ARNOLD ENGINEERING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER F-14D
163893
2006.044.001 CAROLINAS HISTORIC AVIATION COMMISSION F-14D 161166
2006.031.001 MCCLELLAN AVIATION MUSEUM FOUNDATION INC F-14D
163897
2005.118.001 CASTLE AIR MUSEUM FOUNDATION INC F-14D 164601
2006.119.001 GRUMMAN RETIREE CLUB INC F-14D 164603
1997.216.001 National Museum of Naval Aviation F-14A
162710
2006.038.001 National Museum of Naval Aviation F-14D
161159
1989.009.001 National Museum of Naval Aviation F-14A
157984


Friends,
Owen

Owen lets put things in their proper perspective.

There are a ton of F-14s on display all over the country, they cost the NMNA NOTHING to do that. ALL of the expenses to locate the aircraft at their respective museums was borne by those museums, wether the aircraft flew in or were trucked in, all NMNA has done is loan them out.

If a particular aircraft has a specific reason that it should be saved for then that info needs to be transmitted to the Office of Stricken Aircraft in Pennsylvania. Usually that reason needs to be of some historical significance and if it is chances are that the museum has already requested that particular aircraft for museum purposes.

While I don't agree with some of the NHC decisions overall they do a pretty good job at the museum.

Alright Chad I'm done pulling your leg. (actually I just figured it out)

I've good news and bad news.

The bad news is that 161622 was scrapped.

The good news?..........is that 161621 (Miss Molly) wasn't scrapped and is in DM or atleast hasn't been scrapped as far as the latest info I can find says.

bottom line:

Get your Bureau Numbers straight buddy


Shay
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Semper Fortis