WIX Exclusive! Beijing P-61 True Identity

[planeoldsteve]

Found this on Webshots

Dootlittle B-25 in Russia



Steve

Last edited by planeoldsteve on Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[mustangdriver]

Wow! I would love to know if it still remains somewhere. That is the first pic I have ever seen of it in Russia.

[agent86]

I have a feeling that Mr.Brandon (aka-BDK) took this pic in person.Its just a hunch and I dont know for sure.I happen to know thru the grapevine that something/someone in his life has a distant connection to China.I've heard that every memorial day and also labor day weekend, as other southern californians are going to the colorado river,Brandon hops on down to Beijing for a quick visit and a bite of dim-sum..

[Richard W.]

I'll bet the Russians put the B-25 into service and its wreckage lies in pieces somewhere between Siberia and Berlin.

It was a common type for them to operate, as we sent a bunch of them over as Lend-Lease.

[DaveM2]

According to my Russian buddies, lost in a hangar fire in the 50s

Dave

[mustangdriver]

THat sucks!

[rwdfresno]

According to my Russian buddies, lost in a hangar fire in the 50s

That is pretty much the story that I have heard but another story goes that the aircraft was scrapped out around 1950 as opposed to being burned. This information I was relayed to me by Hank Potter and a couple other Doolittle Raiders who were involved in the search for a couple of Doolittle's Raiders aircraft.

There have been a lot of rumors about the aircraft still being in existence but I have a feeling if it did Carl Scholl would have rooted it out already. Russia is a big place, so I wouldn't rule it out, but you would be surprised how much or Russia has been already scoured for relics.

[L. Thompson]

Any ideas what could have been done better (for a burial) using 1957 technology (maybe military cacooning methods) and about the same budget to keep the moisture out and the '57 Plymouth nicely preserved for 50 years?

Would a welded aluminum box, or something cheaper around the car have been the answer?




(just asking so I know what to do when I get the time machine perfected and go back to Kingman 1946... )

[rwdfresno]

I think the vehicle would have survived much better had it not been in subterranean storage. It looks like the tomb just filled up with water. I have seen things parked in a nice dry garage sitting for 30 or 40 years that looked light years ahead of this. The most critical thing is keeping moisture and light away. Although dirt and dust is bad too since it will keep the moisture close to the surface of materials.

[RickH]

A simple drain with an external sump pump would have worked wonders for that Plymouth.

[APG85]

To many subjects in one thread...all interesting...back to the B-25!

[bdk]

I thought this thread was about the Beijing P-61B??????

How about starting a NEW thread?

[Django]

11 months later, we know the Plymouth is STILL junk but do we know any more about the P-61? Any photos? Records? What unit?

[Django]

So this site lists a different bu no. So where did they get this number?

42-39417 P-61A

http://www.johnweeks.com/p61/index.html

According to wikipedia, the institute says it is from the 426th NFS. Is this confirmed?

[Django]

Found more pics...

http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.ph ... 0&t=102009