Civilian OV-10's
Tue May 22, 2007 4:16 pm
Iread in AERO News Netwok about an OV-10 that crashed awhile back. The ac was owned by Dyncorp. Are there any civilian OV-10's or just some owned by Dycorp?
Tue May 22, 2007 4:20 pm
Not owned by Dyncorp. These are State Dept OV-10Ds modified as sprayers. Dyncorp has the operating and support contract. They are based at Patrick AFB, FL. The one that crashed was working down in Colombia. The pilot ejected and got out OK.
Tue May 22, 2007 4:30 pm
This pilot did not survive.
Tue, 22 May '07
Accused Arsonist Faces Murder Charges
A National Transportation Safety Board factual report released last week on a September 6, 2006 accident involving a California Department of Forestry OV-10A in the mountains above Springville, CA doesn't list a specific cause yet, but it does provide some additional facts.
The modified narrative reveals the engines were running at the time of the crash, ruling out engine failure as the cause, according to the Porterville (CA) Recorder.
"No pre-existing condition was found on either engine that would have interfered with normal operation," according to the report.
As ANN reported, the OV-10 Bronco spotter aircraft, flying under the call sign "Air Attack 410," was assisting firefighters working a small blaze in a wooded area near California's Sequoia National Forest when it went down.
California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's office told UPI the pilot was George Willett, 52, from Hanford, CA. Willet was a contract pilot working for DynCorp. His passenger was CDF Battalion Chief Robert Paul Stone, 36, of Visalia, CA, who was acting as the spotter.
The NTSB report on the accident indicates the pilot may have been flying too low.
VMC weather conditions prevailed when the pilot departed VFR from Porterville to assist a ground crew working in California's Mountain Home Demonstration State Forest. Neither ATC nor CDF HQ received any indication from the pilot of problems with the aircraft.
In the days preceding the accident, CDF had been working three separate fires in the area with both the OV-10 and aerial fire tankers. The spotter aboard the accident aircraft, a CDF battalion commander, was to coordinate with ground crews reporting the status of previous fires and identify any new ones. The OV-10A was the only aircraft flying over the area the day of the accident.
Witnesses reported seeing the aircraft flying between 400 and 600 feet over the trees as it proceeded north following the Bear Creek. Another witness says he heard the engines revving just before impact noises.
The aircraft hit 125-foot trees on an upslope in what NTSB described as a box-like canyon.
The report also states CDF guidelines specifically prohibit operations below 500 ft AGL unless authorized. The accident pilot had not received any such authorization the day of the crash.
Patrick Courtney, of Tulare, CA, is accused of setting the Camp, Sock, Jaguar and Mountain fires the OV-10A was investigating at the time of the crash. He faces murder charges in connection with their deaths.
The NTSB's determination of the cause of the crash, which has yet to be released, is expected to play a key role in the trial. Presiding Judge James Hollman has already told prosecutors they need to show a direct link between Courtney's actions and
Tue, 22 May '07
Accused Arsonist Faces Murder Charges
A National Transportation Safety Board factual report released last week on a September 6, 2006 accident involving a California Department of Forestry OV-10A in the mountains above Springville, CA doesn't list a specific cause yet, but it does provide some additional facts.
The modified narrative reveals the engines were running at the time of the crash, ruling out engine failure as the cause, according to the Porterville (CA) Recorder.
"No pre-existing condition was found on either engine that would have interfered with normal operation," according to the report.
As ANN reported, the OV-10 Bronco spotter aircraft, flying under the call sign "Air Attack 410," was assisting firefighters working a small blaze in a wooded area near California's Sequoia National Forest when it went down.
California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger's office told UPI the pilot was George Willett, 52, from Hanford, CA. Willet was a contract pilot working for DynCorp. His passenger was CDF Battalion Chief Robert Paul Stone, 36, of Visalia, CA, who was acting as the spotter.
The NTSB report on the accident indicates the pilot may have been flying too low.
VMC weather conditions prevailed when the pilot departed VFR from Porterville to assist a ground crew working in California's Mountain Home Demonstration State Forest. Neither ATC nor CDF HQ received any indication from the pilot of problems with the aircraft.
In the days preceding the accident, CDF had been working three separate fires in the area with both the OV-10 and aerial fire tankers. The spotter aboard the accident aircraft, a CDF battalion commander, was to coordinate with ground crews reporting the status of previous fires and identify any new ones. The OV-10A was the only aircraft flying over the area the day of the accident.
Witnesses reported seeing the aircraft flying between 400 and 600 feet over the trees as it proceeded north following the Bear Creek. Another witness says he heard the engines revving just before impact noises.
The aircraft hit 125-foot trees on an upslope in what NTSB described as a box-like canyon.
The report also states CDF guidelines specifically prohibit operations below 500 ft AGL unless authorized. The accident pilot had not received any such authorization the day of the crash.
Patrick Courtney, of Tulare, CA, is accused of setting the Camp, Sock, Jaguar and Mountain fires the OV-10A was investigating at the time of the crash. He faces murder charges in connection with their deaths.
The NTSB's determination of the cause of the crash, which has yet to be released, is expected to play a key role in the trial. Presiding Judge James Hollman has already told prosecutors they need to show a direct link between Courtney's actions and
Tue May 22, 2007 5:01 pm
RickH wrote:Not owned by Dyncorp. These are State Dept OV-10Ds modified as sprayers. Dyncorp has the operating and support contract. They are based at Patrick AFB, FL. The one that crashed was working down in Colombia. The pilot ejected and got out OK.
When did this crash take place?
Last edited by T33driver on Tue May 22, 2007 5:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Tue May 22, 2007 5:01 pm
Versatile wrote:This pilot did not survive.
Wrong accident - the crash referred to above is that of OV-10D N474AW on Feb 6 2006 in Columbia. The pilot is reported to have ejected and survived, although seriously injured.
http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/PROJ ... s/2006.htm
Tue May 22, 2007 5:08 pm
The accident referred to was an OV-10 operated by the California Department of Forestry. They use the aircraft as spotters and lead in aircraft for the airtankers. The aircraft are owned by the CDF, but operated under contract by Dyncorp who hires the pilots and does the maintenance.
Tue May 22, 2007 5:21 pm
skip spafford wrote:The accident referred to was an OV-10 operated by the California Department of Forestry. They use the aircraft as spotters and lead in aircraft for the airtankers. The aircraft are owned by the CDF, but operated under contract by Dyncorp who hires the pilots and does the maintenance.
And the Dyncorp contract pilot and Fire Service observer were killed in the crash.
Tue May 22, 2007 5:34 pm
I've seen one flying around the Dayton area, but never got a good look at it......anybody know the one?
Shay
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Tue May 22, 2007 7:13 pm
Shay, the Ov-10As in Ohio were flown from NASA-Glenn. They were transferred to NASA-Langley over 10 years ago. Glenn also had 2 OV-10Ds but they were transferred to the State Dept program about 3-4 years ago.
The OV-10D crash I mentioned in the earlier post happened just a few days ago.
The OV-10D crash I mentioned in the earlier post happened just a few days ago.
Tue May 22, 2007 7:58 pm
There is a privately owned flying OV-10 based in Carson City and is part of a collection of aircraft owned by Rick Clemens. The collection is affectionately called the Cactus Air Force. Here is a link to a story about the Bronco and mention of his other aircraft. I have been lucky to have seen this beautiful plane and met the guys through my association with the OV-10 Assn in Ft Worth.
http://www.warbirds-eaa.org/featured/Fe ... 0OV-10.pdf
http://www.warbirds-eaa.org/featured/Fe ... 0OV-10.pdf
Tue May 22, 2007 8:17 pm
RickH wrote:Shay, the Ov-10As in Ohio were flown from NASA-Glenn. They were transferred to NASA-Langley over 10 years ago. Glenn also had 2 OV-10Ds but they were transferred to the State Dept program about 3-4 years ago.
The OV-10D crash I mentioned in the earlier post happened just a few days ago.
Ok, we're talking about the same one. The pilot told me he had a "hard landing" (didn't eject) after debris from the fragged OV-10 in front of him took out both his engines. Maybe the pilot in the other Bronco ejected? I didn't ask.
Wed May 23, 2007 1:43 am
I Believe their are a few ex-German OV-10B's flying in the states.
Thu May 24, 2007 7:56 am
this one is flying in France as F-AZKM (ex-German AF 99+24)... photographed last September at an Airshow in Switzerland.....
did an impressive display !
Martin
did an impressive display !
Martin
Thu May 24, 2007 9:49 am
Stallion 51 in Kissimmee also has their Ex-German Example fully operational and flying now. A very cool machine !
Thu May 24, 2007 2:35 pm
I think that it is Bob Jepsen's