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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:43 am 
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Read in today's paper that the Bush administration is proposing to TRIPLE
the fuel tax for corporate and private aircraft. It never ends.


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It’s all about the Airline Lobbyists.

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This was in my inbox on Friday, but I missed it -

From 2-23-07 ICAS FastFacts email:

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Administration Budget Proposal to Increase Fuel Tax by More than 200%

In the last FastFacts, we reported that the White House released its Fiscal Year 2008 budget which would place user fees on all facets of general aviation. Last week, FAA Administrator Marion Blakey unveiled details of the Next Generation Air Transportation System Financing Reform Act of 2007. Blakey stated that the funding plan will reduce aviation congestion, improve passenger airline travel, and cut down on noise for communities near major airports. She admitted that the bill aims to eliminate the domestic passenger ticket tax for airline travelers, and reduce the international arrival and departure tax by 50 percent -- which the agency says will reduce the overall burden to both the airlines and the traveling public. "Our proposal will make it easier for airports, airlines and controllers to keep pace with the skyrocketing demand for air travel this nation is going to experience over the coming decades," said Blakey.

To do this, the proposal seeks to generate revenues based on the costs that users impose on the air traffic system - this would hit general aviation particularly hard. First, it would increase the general aviation fuel tax by 260% for Avgas and 220% for Jet A, and annual adjustments for inflation will take these taxes even higher. Second, it enables the FAA to set user registration fees for services such as issuing an airman certificate, issuing a medical certificate, registering an aircraft and recording a security interest. Third, it would impose certification fees for activities such as the appointment and training of designees and the issuance of a certificate to repair station as well as flight and maintenance training organizations.

As if that weren't bad enough, the proposal provides the FAA with broad authority to establish any additional user fees as may be necessary to cover the cost of aviation certification, regulation and related services. Congress has seen through the "smoke and mirrors" of the administration's proposal and are opposed to the prescribed funding scheme. House Transportation and Infrastructure Subcommittee on Aviation Chairman Jerry Costello (D-IL) questioned why the Administration claimed to need improvements to the current FAA system and yet they put forth a plan that actually results in less revenue. Peter DeFazio (D-OR) noted that the increased fuel tax would "depress GA activity." Rep. Robin Hayes said there was "no way user fees are fair, equitable and are going to work."

ICAS Chairmen Play "David" against the "Goliath" Airlines that are Lobbying for User Fees

Sure, the major GA associations like GAMA and EAA are lobbying against the FAA's new financing proposal and they have been up on Capitol Hill to let Congress know that the proposal is unwise. AOPA has even told Members of Congress that nine out of ten general aviation pilots have told them that they would quit flying if the taxes increase as prescribed. But this past week ICAS's current Chairman, Jim Peitz and the immediate past chairman, Col. Larry Gallogly carried the message against the proposal to key members of the U.S. Senate. Peitz spent 3 hours with Sen. John Thune R-SD this week (in the cockpit of his B200) and he used that opportunity to hammer home our opposition to user fees. Peitz was able to gain Thune's commitment to actively oppose the proposal. Col. Larry Gallogly has taken two opportunities to talk with Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) and convince him to oppose the Administration's proposal. Kudos to Jim and Larry.

Should other ICAS members have direct access to a Member of Congress and you are willing to participate in this fight, please call and let us know at ICAS-HQ.

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Someone has to help pay for the cheap fuel the airllines get.
At $4 plus/ gallon in the local hardware store for Kerosene, there is no way the airlines could afford to fly if they payed that.


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Someone has to help pay for the cheap fuel the airllines get.
At $4 plus/ gallon in the local hardware store for Kerosene, there is no way the airlines could afford to fly if they payed that.


I figure it's to help pay for the hundreds of billions of dollars we've already dumped into that disaster called Iraq. You know...the same Iraq that Cheney said could pay for it's own reconstruction and security with it's huge oil reserves :roll: .

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Good old GW Bush :evil: Probably the most UNCONSERVATIVE conservative in recent history. I voted for the jackass twice, but not to have his adminstration raising taxes like this! :x


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If you don't like this, and it is a real stinker, then you need to contact your congressman and make your ideas known.

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How many times did the Clinton Administration float the idea of user fees?

Here’s a news clip from almost ten years ago:

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April 21, 1998


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Clinton administration proposed legislation Monday to convert air traffic control services into a business-like operation that would be mostly financed through user fees. Government officials said the fees would provide air traffic control services with adequate funding, exempt from budgetary spending caps, at a time of rapid growth in air travel.

"We are approaching aviation gridlock if we don't act," Transportation Secretary Rodney Slater told a news conference, echoing the warnings of the recent report by the National Civil Aviation Review Commission. Under the plan, air traffic services would be converted next year into what officials are calling a "performance-based organization," supervised by a chief operating officer.

Fees based on the cost of providing services would then be levied on airlines starting in 2000. Slater said existing excise fees such as the 7.5 percent ticket tax could be reduced as revenue began to build from the user fees. Also sent to Congress Monday was a $9.7 billion Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization proposal for fiscal 1999 that starts Oct. 1 this year.

That suggested legislation contained $1.7 billion a year for airport grants, coupled to a recommendation to allow airports to increase facility charges to $4 per passenger from $3 at the moment. FAA Administrator Jane Garvey said it was too early to say what levels of fees for different air traffic services were being contemplated. "We need a strong cost accounting system before we move to a pricing mechanism and that's what we are aggressively putting in place now," Garvey told reporters.

In January a U.S. court rejected fees levied by the FAA on foreign flights overflying U.S. airspace because the charges were not based on FAA's actual costs.


Oh, and will someone please take Robert Poole over at the Reason Foundation out for a $100 Hamburger already?

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March 9, 2007

NBAA: FAA Aviation User-Fee Plan Flawed
By Chad Trautvetter, Editor in Chief

Representing the general aviation community during a Senate aviation subcommittee hearing on FAA reauthorization on Thursday morning, National Business Aviation Association (NBAA) president and CEO Ed Bolen urged lawmakers to immediately reject aviation user fees in any form, saying the proposal advocated by the airlines and FAA would be "disastrous" for the national aviation system and for businesses in rural area. During testimony, he maintained that the FAA's user-fee proposal would overthrow a funding structure that has proven to be "stable, reliable and growing" for more than 25 years. Bolen pointed out several shortcomings in the FAA's plan: a $600 million cut in FAA funding; allowing the FAA to go into deep debt, up to $5 billion, starting in 2013; and diversion of funds for ATC transformation to create a bureaucracy to assess and collect user fees. "Revenues going into the Airport and Airways Trust Fund are at record levels, and no less an authority than the Congressional Budget Office has said that the FAA will continue to have sufficient funds to fully support the transition to the Next Generation Air Traffic System," he told the subcommittee. Bolen also reminded lawmakers that in 1997 the airlines advocated that user fees were needed to overhaul aviation system funding, which would have shifted some $600 million in costs and reduced the role of Congress in aviation system oversight. "To everyone who was around the last time the nation's big airlines pushed that scheme, there is a strong sense of déjà vu," he said. "This time around, the airlines have picked a new target for their tax shift -- general aviation -- and they have increased the amount to $2 billion. The objective of reducing congressional control of the FAA remains unchanged."




March 11, 2007

Funding Debate Goes To Congress
By Russ Niles, Contributing Editor

After about two years of posturing, the rubber hits the road for the FAA's attempt to radically change the way it does business this week. On Wednesday, Administrator Marion Blakey will be in front of the aviation subcommittee of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee to defend the agency's reauthorization proposal. That will be a warm-up for March 21, when she'll be back in front of the committee promoting her vision of a user-pay system for air traffic control and other services and hefty fuel tax increases for general aviation. AOPA President Phil Boyer will testify at the March 21 hearing to fight the proposal, saying it's unnecessary from a financial point of view and will seriously harm GA in the U.S. AOPA is pulling out the stops to maintain pressure against the funding changes. Last week it sent aviation reporters advance copies of a scathing assessment of the European user-fee system that will appear in the April edition of AOPA Pilot magazine. The advance look at the story is intended as background for coverage of the committee hearings. The article lists examples of various fees imposed on all levels of GA aircraft. It also chronicles a flight from England to Germany in a Twin Comanche that, despite some questionable maneuvers executed to avoid user fees, costs the aircraft owner $232 in fees and taxes alone. The story also speculates on the impact on training and currency since pilots pay user fees for each landing, including touch and goes.








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I encourage everyone to GET INVOLVED in this topic however you can. User fees are a bad idea in total but could ruin GA (of which, we warbird nuts are a parts of)

Call, write or go see your congress man on Capitol Hill. I did, and it was well worth the trip.


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T-6G Pilot wrote:
I encourage everyone to GET INVOLVED in this topic however you can. User fees are a bad idea in total but could ruin GA (of which, we warbird nuts are a parts of)

Call, write or go see your congress man on Capitol Hill. I did, and it was well worth the trip.


sorry, or congress woman :wink:


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Frankly it's getting to the point where it's getting harder to tell the difference between the political parties on the tax/user fee/spending issue. This aviation fuel tax proposal is a politician's dream since it screws a very small segment of voters, one that is perhaps perceived to be wealthy, so it they won't get much flak the rest of their constituents. By the way, the airlines or any business doesn't "pay" for taxes or user fees, they pass them on to us in the way of increased prices, the difference being it's spread out to the traveling public and not just aviation fuel users. Time to buy my own aircraft refueler truck so I can buy fuel wholesale sans taxes!


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Here’s something from today’s AVweb email:

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User-Fee Battle: Deja Vu All Over Again?
March 14, 2007

To many, this year's battle in Congress over the FAA's pending reauthorization legislation -- which pitches the agency and airlines against general aviation pilots/operators and airframe manufacturers -- is eerily reminiscent of a similar fight waged in the early 1980s. At the time, the playing field was a bit different, with the August 1981 firing of PATCO controllers supposedly driving then-Administrator J. Lynn Helms' vision of a modernized, automated FAA air traffic control system requiring fewer controllers to handle the onslaught of airline deregulation and, of course, all those pesky business jets. But much of the same rhetoric and rationale was being deployed. For example, the FAA had a plan -- the National Airspace System Plan, or NASP -- emphasizing a new "host" computer system for the en route environment, using increased automation throughout the ATC system as a way to minimize the need for human controllers (and their labor issues), plus enhanced communications to ATC and with other airborne aircraft through Mode S transponders and the Traffic Alert Collision Avoidance System (TCAS).

Another new technology promising greater efficiency was the Microwave Landing System, although the FAA was opposing the then-partially deployed Global Positioning System (GPS) since it lacked sufficient accuracy for instrument approaches, according to a report issued by the Office of Technology Assessment. But then, as now, the major battle was over how the new system would be funded, who would pay more and who would pay less. Other differences between the 1982 situation and today's: For example, no taxes or user fees were being levied on airspace users; the 1970 legislation imposing them had expired in 1980 and had not been renewed. But the some of the same buzzword issues -- cost allocation and cost recovery, for instance -- were being bandied about.


What's At Stake: Lessons Learned From Past User-Fee Fights

During congressional consideration of the 1982 FAA authorization bill, the user-fee issue got the lion's share of attention, with some proposals even calling for a tax on the new avionics general aviation aircraft would be required to carry for access to the nation's most-congested airspace. A complicated user-fee system was envisioned, with conventional and Mode S transponders used to identify aircraft and their system impact, followed by direct billing -- similar to a telephone bill -- a month later. Another "idea" was an annual tax on aircraft by weight, number of engines or installed avionics equipment. Eventually, the 1982 debate resulted in Congress passing legislation designed to modernize the ATC system and, employing the basic activity-based excise tax system in place today, cover its costs. All of which worked quite well according to most observers. Until the fall of 1984, that is, when federal-budget politics overshadowed the FAA's commitment to users and funding for the NASP and airports was drastically reduced. Of course, with one or two exceptions, primarily resulting from congressional inaction, the taxes/fees levied on aviation system users were not reduced. Most years since then, there's been an annual battle between general aviation, airlines and their passengers -- one fought in the halls of the FAA and Congress -- to fully fund the system improvements already authorized. Rarely has Congress approved full funding; even rarer has been an FAA budget proposing to spend at the levels previously agreed.

The FAA often was its own worst enemy, however, falling far behind on the research and procurement schedules it originally said it could meet, with the Microwave Landing System serving as industry's poster-child evidence. Even so, Congress was definitely in charge and, eventually, hammered out compromises ensuring equal access to all airspace and at least adequate funding. And, according to many observers on the general aviation side of the house, that's where this year's user-fee battle takes on such importance, irrespective of the much higher costs involved or the airlines' bid to place themselves in charge of running the ATC system. Instead, observers say it's the proposal's almost-below-the-radar removal of Congress from the annual -- some say day-to-day -- oversight of the agency and the ATC system that poses the greatest opportunity for mischief. There's no question the FAA and the airlines are seeking greater autonomy and dedicated funding; they've been at this for more than 25 years. The real question confronting industry this year is the extent to which Congress should give up its oversight and turn over to a board of directors composed largely of airline representatives responsibility for long-term management of the ATC system. Based on the ways in which the agency has lived up to its commitments since the early 1980s, the answer should be "not so much." That's what's at stake for general and business aviation in 2007.

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And we’re back...

From today's AvWebFlash email:


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$7 Billion In Aviation User Fees In Obama Budget

Aviation groups are raising the alarm after combing President Barack Obama's first budget and finding the term "direct user charges" in relation to FAA funding. In fact, the Obama administration targets raising $7 billion annually, roughly half the FAA's budget by "repealing some aviation excise taxes and replacing these taxes with direct user charges." The charges would begin in 2011. The language is on page 129 of the budget. Not surprisingly, general aviation groups are unanimous in their opposition to the language.

"It is often said the devil is in the details, but even with only a few details, there is much about which we are concerned," said AOPA President Craig Fuller.


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Like the proposed New tax on miles driven, because people have switched to more efficient cars, along with down economy, revenue is down! We must control where people go and when they're allowed to go there!!!

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